T-Shirt proposal

judebertjudebert familEE
in General Civic Wagon Discussion
I've been working on this for a week or two, and I'm looking for constructive criticism. If you don't like it, fine, but don't bother telling me unless you can think of a specific modification that would improve it.

I've got a Cafe Press shop, and I'm thinking of putting this graphic on a T-Shirt:
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Would any of the members here be interested? Any changes you'd like? I'd be making $2 off each shirt, and I'd give $1 to the forum.

Comments

  • RevmaynardRevmaynard Council Member
    For sure, my car is the far right! Haha.
  • ragenasianragenasian Moderator
    Well I think the only problem would be is that MY wagon isn't on there :lol:

    Looks pretty good
  • judebertjudebert familEE
    ragenasian wrote:
    Well I think the only problem would be is that MY wagon isn't on there :lol:

    I fully agree! I hear there's a big meet coming up; if somebody gets me nice high-resolution images, I'll make up t-shirts.
  • HxCforeverHxCforever Wagonist
    ragenasian wrote:
    Well I think the only problem would be is that MY wagon isn't on there :lol:

    Looks pretty good

    i was thinking th same thing. i'de buy one of those if the price was right
  • progressprogress Wagonist
    I like the design and your use of the Honda "H" emblem. Perhaps you can lighten up the drop shadows a bit and bring them a bit closer to the cars.

    Also maybe darken up the text a bit but leave the sides the grey it currently is.
  • stephenstephen Senior Wagonist
    can you put a blue wagon on there? other than that i love it!
  • judebertjudebert familEE
    I was thinking the text needs darkening, too.

    I can lighten the drop shadows, but I figured the idea was to have the cars hovering, like angels in heaven. I left out the halos because it was just too busy.

    Price would be somewhere around $13 - $15.

    I could put in a blue wagon, but I'd need pictures. I'm not sure it could be added to the current wagons; that would require a perfect picture. (If taken in the correct perspective, I suppose I could wedge it in second from the right.)

    Of course, if we get a better group of wagons at the next meet, with a nice picture (2000+ pixels wide), I could swap that picture in with very little trouble.
  • bam-bambam-bam Council Member
    I'm in for a couple of shirts!

    There will be at least ONE blue wagon at the next meet...
  • stephenstephen Senior Wagonist
    you could also replace the actual pix with a line drawing of a wagon like i saw in another post. but i love the "wagon heaven" with the honda logo.....
  • evol911evol911 familEE
    Damn REVMAYNARD you got a big ol' dent in that hood of yours. LOL Just kidding with ya.
  • wagodizzlewagodizzle Council Member and EDM expert
    i love it :D when do i get mine?? :P hehe
  • judebertjudebert familEE
    I'm reworking it to include some of the suggestions here. I'll post again when I've got it.

    What font is the HCW sticker in, anyway? I just can't seem to match the lowercase g! I don't want to draw the whole sticker!!
  • WorldHazardWorldHazard New Wagonist
    looks great i think.. i'd def bring in the drop shadow closer towards the cars, also.. get the spacing of the cars better.. the red one is too close to it's neighbor as compared to the right car and it's neighbor.. kinda makes the 'wagon' text looks off center
  • judebertjudebert familEE
    Yeah, guys! Next time, park better!

    I think that's a change I can make, though. It's just sliding one over a bit, so it shouldn't change the perspective enough to notice.
  • akiraboyakiraboy HondaCivicWagon.com Founder
    that is wild.
  • judebertjudebert familEE
    Unfortunately, it's not going to happen. I'm not allowed to use the Honda logos without written permission.

    I suppose I could write to Honda and ask, but it's going to take a while...
  • wagodizzlewagodizzle Council Member and EDM expert
    thats ghey.....

    well, can it be done without the H logo?

    i wish i was at my home computer with photoshop.. cause i'd make up some mock-up plans as well..

    but im not gonna be home for a few weeks... :x
  • HaydzHaydz Moderator
    wagodizzle wrote:
    but im not gonna be home for a few weeks... :x

    What a poof... if you think your car is so smart then why don't you fly it home? :P
  • wagodizzlewagodizzle Council Member and EDM expert
    im not with my car :P its back home as well... a good 8000 miles away
  • HaydzHaydz Moderator
    I meant the smart car... :P
  • wagodizzlewagodizzle Council Member and EDM expert
    ohhh... :oops:
  • ABBEY1227ABBEY1227 Wagonist
    Judebert
    if you're really looking for some constructive criticism.....here goes :)

    The cars themselves look really cool, the floating trick is neat looking, but the lettering is somehow very lacking and inconsistent.
    Maybe if you took an exacto knife to REAL Honda emblems you could pull off the same arc effect, but right now it looks a little too simplistic. Plus you've placed all Caps on "WAGON" while using lower case in "Heaven".

    I'm a big fan of artwork and logo work and i make it a point to notice neat looking company logos. I also notice when people miss the mark. You're on the target but not on the bullseye.

    By the way, if you're worried about Honda coming after you for copyright infringement, i wouldn't get too worried if you're only whipping up 1-25 shirts for you and your "friends". That's hardly the loss of priofits Honda is gonna sweat.

    Here's another small idea, take 4 different wagons of differing colors and place them all facing the same sideways direction across an English crosswalk to look like the Abbey Road Album cover :) If you're gonna risk copyrights and pay homage to one thing, why not do 2 at the same time? I am the Walrus, by the way ;) koo koo ka joob
    I hope you found these comments to be the honest critique you were hoping for. Good luck with it.
  • judebertjudebert familEE
    Thanks, Abbey. That's exactly the kind of thing I was looking for; it was specific, informed, and helpful.

    The WAGON is my rendition of the Wagovan logo font, with the "va" removed and my lame attempt at an arc effect in a vector program. I could try faking up the H, E, and V that would be required for "HEAVEN", just to keep things consistent. (I also considered using the font in the "I love my Honda" stickers, but the serif just didn't seem to go well with the Honda logo or the WAGON font.)

    I'm not so worried about getting sued. The T-Shirt vendor is. And I have to admit, I don't like the idea of violating copyrights. I depend on them for too much of my own work to ignore someone else's. Perhaps I've got too much of a conscience; I'm gonna Carry That Weight, carry that weight a long time.

    The Abbey Road thing, though -- that would be a satire. That's permitted under fair use.
  • stephenstephen Senior Wagonist
    i lilke the arc of the word "wagon" over the cars. But with the web address straight across below the cars, I wonder if it might look better with the word "heaven" straight across as well? Have you tried this? It is the only thing I can think of in the way of constructive criticism. Other than that I still think the concept is good, just needs tweaking.....and a blue wagon! lol!


    Edit: I think it might sound catchier if it said "Wago Heaven" instead of "Wagon Heaven"....my $.02.
  • CharbCharb Administrator
    My humble opinion...

    no 'wagon'
    no 'heaven'

    I'll buy...

    (can you do it in black? I only where black lol)
  • judebertjudebert familEE
    Black might be a little difficult. It would have a colored border. Perhaps I could make the border black, though. I'll see what I can do.

    Since Honda is taking so long replying, I'm planning on replacing the logo with a plain letter. I'll have something up soon.
  • EDwEFprtsEDwEFprts Senior Wagonist
    that would be cool with just 1 wagon on it.
    no text, etc.
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