How hard is it to swap a dohc ZC in a AWD wagon

shuttle89shuttle89 Band Wagon
in Engine & Drivetrain
Can someone please tell me if it is possible and how hard it would be to swap a D16zc dual cam non v-tech into my 1989 AWD wagon my d16a6 just locked up so i just decided to do a swap.

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  • wagodizzlewagodizzle Council Member and EDM expert
    you referring to just the DOHC ZC? there is no such thing as a D16ZC :P
    anyways, its a direct bolt in. very easy install ;) you have to use your original tranny though.

    check out this link...

    http://www.hondacivicwagon.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=10
  • shuttle89shuttle89 Band Wagon
    oh gotcha man i really dont know much about them i just have heard thats the only engine that will bolt up to my stock transmission and i will be able to keep the AWD right i just need the wiring harness and the ecu right?
  • wagodizzlewagodizzle Council Member and EDM expert
    yes, it is the only DOHC motor that can be swapped into the RT if you wanna keep 4WD ;)

    you use all your stock parts, basically just change out the motor. you can use stock mounts, wiring harness, even ECU but it is recommended you upgrade to the PM7 (DOHC ZC ECU).

    its all plug and play. no modification needed :D
  • shuttle89shuttle89 Band Wagon
    Thanks alot man im if i was going to boost in the future after the swap would it be better to swap the sohc or the dohc im really just clueless man?
  • wagodizzlewagodizzle Council Member and EDM expert
    oh man, im a total n00b to boost and such, so i couldnt tell you which is better... i'll let someone else answer, haha.
  • shuttle89shuttle89 Band Wagon
    haha thanks anyways man you've been a big help hopefully everything will workout.
  • quartersquarters Council Member
    there is a 1.6 DOHC non vtec ZC motor that will bolt up and virtually wire up to your current setup. it is a nice torque honda 1.6 motor, nothing crazy but a great little motor that is easily obtained.

    then there is a d16z6 1.6 SOHC VTEC motor. It realize heavily on being in vtec at all times to make power. it is a more 'fun' motor, IF YOUR CAR IS A CRX. probably acquired for slighly more than the ZC, the reason i say more is because your total costs will be higher, you'll have to convert your electronics to OBD1 from OBD0. i had a d16z6 in a crx hf, great fun.

    In a wagon... the choice to me is obvious, the ZC wins hands down. The ZC is simple, cheaper, and a better power band for the heavier wagon.
     One of the most common mistakes i see is people not choosing the right kind of engine for their chassis. Honda's speed is based ENTIRELY on their power/weight ratio. With a higher weight, and being restricted to d-series, you need something with a more constant, even, powerband. The ZC does that. this entire analysis is based on assuming you are not going boost, just something bolt in that's more fun.
    hope that helps abit.
  • shuttle89shuttle89 Band Wagon
    yea every little bit helps so thanks i probably will be going with the dohc zc non vtech becuz i plan to boost in the future and it has a lower compression so im thinking that will be the right path to take
  • astutoastuto Wagonist
    hey man im also thinkin go w this engine, my 90 rt4wd engine is goin bad, still drives but now i have to drive normal lol anyways does anyones knows how much torque does it has?
  • shuttle89shuttle89 Band Wagon
    If your talking about the zc it has 108lb torque.
  • astutoastuto Wagonist
    yeah the doch zc lol sweet
  • michaelhinkle1michaelhinkle1 Senior Wagonist
    stock waggies have like what? 90hp and 80tq?
  • astutoastuto Wagonist
    the rt4wd year '90 has 108 hp and 90 torque lol, still a bid difference though
  • wagodizzlewagodizzle Council Member and EDM expert
    just to clear things up....

    Code: JDM ZC DOHC OBD0
    Car: JDM CRX/Civic Si
    Displacement: 1.6 liter
    Horse Power: 137@6800
    Torque: 108 lb-ft@5700

    Code: USDM D15B2 SOHC OBD 0
    Car: Civic Wagon DX, Wagovan, DX, LX (etc..)
    Displacement: 1.5 liter
    Horse Power: 92@6000
    Torque: 89@4500

    Code: USDM D16A6 SOHC OBD 0
    Car: RT4WD, Si, EX (etc..)
    Displacement: 1.6 liter
    Horsepower: 108@6000
    Torque: 100@5000

    ;)
  • HaydzHaydz Moderator
    wagodizzle the JDM DOHC ZC (OBD0) has 130PS which is 128.22HP
  • wagodizzlewagodizzle Council Member and EDM expert
    hmm ok, all the websites i've ever been on/seen have the DOHC ZC listed at 137 hp. oh well, prolly doesnt matter either way :P
  • HaydzHaydz Moderator
    The earlier 84-87 "Goldtop" DOHC ZC had 137 i think. ;)
  • astutoastuto Wagonist
    do u know where can i find that engine?
  • 949949 Senior Wagonist
    this seems like it would be a good full write up with pics if someone does it on the wagon.
  • astutoastuto Wagonist
    lol dude is half of the price of a b16a engine and it has like prob 20 hp less, is not vtec but still 137 hp is pretty good.... im plannin to get this engine since my engine is goin bad so i just lookin for the manual rt4wd tranny
  • HaydzHaydz Moderator
    extra, extra, read all about it!

    http://www.hondacivicwagon.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=10
  • wagodizzlewagodizzle Council Member and EDM expert
    wagodizzle wrote:

    check out this link...

    http://www.hondacivicwagon.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=10

    some people Haydz... i tell ya :lol:
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