T3 turbo Wagon?

SweetOhSweetOh Wagonist
in Engine & Drivetrain
Well My friend got a scrap 240zx all he need left is the manual tranny,

He leting me have the trubo off the z For free. :twisted:

So now heres the realy question, is it worth truboing my wagons little D15B2 @ 260,000 miles or rebuild the moter for this?

And or do a motor swap and trubo the swap?

Comments

  • 300zx300zx Wagonist
    Turbo that thing up! :D
    Check out this web site
    WWW.HOMEMADETURBO.COM

    P.S- If you blow up the motor, its cheap to replace it. :wink:
    Everyone is swapping that motor out.
  • KahunaKahuna familEE
    I'd do it for the heck of it. Also, I have a D15 engine/tranny I would sell you for next to nothing if you wanted to build it. 130,000 miles on it.
  • pLaYbOipLaYbOi Wagonist
    boost it till it blows!!!! and THEN do a swap. But dont sway too far from a D motor, i'd say switch up to a D16Z6 right after. Do keep in mind though that if you do decide to go turbo, you might need to convert to MPFI and OBD1. It'll get to be about $1500 After everything is all said and done if i were to put a setup together. Also check out www.d-series.org and www.turbod16.com
  • SweetOhSweetOh Wagonist
    Well if i turbo it ill have to flash the ECU cause it will freak out if i dont.

    The two motors i was looking at was a D16Z6 and or a B16A whitch i could get one for around $1800 so what my mechanic said.
  • ThinkFabThinkFab Wagonist
    put a D16A6 in it. they can hold boost well! i made 163ft lbs. and 165 hp with 8 psi and stock internals. also about 220,000 miles on it. that hp will get you low 14's in a wagon.
  • shift_wagovanshift_wagovan Wagonist
    Mekkor wrote:
    Well if i turbo it ill have to flash the ECU cause it will freak out if i dont.

    The two motors i was looking at was a D16Z6 and or a B16A whitch i could get one for around $1800 so what my mechanic said.

    You won't need a reflash. Just get a ecu from xencron(sp?). I know a chipped PM6 is like $130ish. That also comes with 2 chips that he will burn if you send him your specs.
  • pLaYbOipLaYbOi Wagonist
    i would go with the d16z6 and use the extra money you'd save and spend it on other parts for the car. There's plenty of boosted d16z6's that are making anywhere from 180whp to 200whp on 8psi and stock internals. I'm personally considering 10 psi with d16a1 rods and arp head studs. The d16a1 rods are supposedly a bit beefier and capable of 250hp versus the other d series' rods @ 200hp.

    b16's are weak. they have the same exact ammount of torque as a Z6 but 30 more hp that can be more than just made up after boost.
  • 949949 Senior Wagonist
    ThinkFab wrote:
    put a D16A6 in it. they can hold boost well! i made 163ft lbs. and 165 hp with 8 psi and stock internals. also about 220,000 miles on it. that hp will get you low 14's in a wagon.


    nice. i have mine boosted too. i am about to put new internals, top end and bottom. i was told that it should only do about 280whp or so. i personally have never done this before so i am hope so. he also said if i do the heads with new springs i should be able to rev my rpm to about 10k rpm safely with 11k spec springs along with all new forged internals. anyone know where i can get a plug and play clustor that will give me that high of an rpm reading?
  • eldonciv777eldonciv777 Wagonist
    You won't make power to 10k. You might make power to 8 or 8400 if you're lucky and have an agressive cam. I wouldn't really recommend it though, because it will in all probability decrease the life of your motor. You'll need an aftermarket cluster if you seriously want 10k. Some euro clusters read in mph and have a much higher tach (maybe 8500?), but I forget what precisely they are called.
  • 949949 Senior Wagonist
    eldonciv777 wrote:
    You won't make power to 10k. You might make power to 8 or 8400 if you're lucky and have an agressive cam. I wouldn't really recommend it though, because it will in all probability decrease the life of your motor. You'll need an aftermarket cluster if you seriously want 10k. Some euro clusters read in mph and have a much higher tach (maybe 8500?), but I forget what precisely they are called.

    i wanted to do the higher rpm cause i might up the turbo later on when i am tired of this little one.

    after this is done i wont be going high all the time. so im not too worried about the engine life. i drive very conservatively right now.

    i have found a jdm cluster that goes to 9500 rpm.
    i just think its a pain in the ass to make it work.
  • pLaYbOipLaYbOi Wagonist
    949 wrote:

    nice. i have mine boosted too. i am about to put new internals, top end and bottom. i was told that it should only do about 280whp or so. i personally have never done this before so i am hope so. he also said if i do the heads with new springs i should be able to rev my rpm to about 10k rpm safely with 11k spec springs along with all new forged internals. anyone know where i can get a plug and play clustor that will give me that high of an rpm reading?

    I dont thin revving to 10k rpm is going to benifit you in any way. D motors just dont have the near perfect rod and stroke ratio as a B16 or B18C. Like it was mentioned before, you most likely wont be making any power at those heights. Its better to add more boost rather than to add more RPMs.

    Go and consider the Suzuki Vitara piston+Tuner Toys Rod combo which has been show to be good up to about 25psi.

    to the original poster, what is going to be the main purpose of the vehicle???? If its going to be a daily driver that you kinda beat around in and dont want to spend too much money on, you can look into either swapping a LS motor which is about as fast as a B16 stop light to stop light but for far cheaper. The LS motors also have a lot of low end torque which is more useful to have around the city.

    you can go that route or go with a supercharged single cam which would almost essentially be the going towards the same idea, a little more power on the lower end that'll kick in smoother than a turbo.
  • eldonciv777eldonciv777 Wagonist
    you can go that route or go with a supercharged single cam which would almost essentially be the going towards the same idea, a little more power on the lower end that'll kick in smoother than a turbo.

    I'm waiting for this guy to finish his build. I'm hoping it ends up changing the whole high-power honda=turbo lag. And the way it sounds, it could even lead to semi-mass produced "kits".
    http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1997913&page=1
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