88 4wd into 91 2wd wagon

DDCWAGON

I have a 91 wagon 2wd AT and i was wondering if anyone could tell me what roadblocks i may run into by swaping the 4wd and MT from a wrecked 88 4wd to my 91 2wd?

wagodizzle

um, not an expert.. but im pretty sure for the most part its all bolt on.. you might have a hard time hooking up the shifter since its cable.. umm, yeah..

DDCWAGON

Are the rear suspension components compatible?

wagodizzle

yeah, the 4wd strut will make the car just a teeny bit higher, meaning, your car will sit like 1/4 inch higher or something...

DDCWAGON

will there be any cutting for the AT to MT with cables conversion?

wagodizzle

um that im not sure... Kahuna did a AT -> MT conversion but that was for a 2WD.. im pretty sure there will be a little cutting, but most likey not a lot... if you are for the most part mechanically inclined and have a but of experience with Hondas you should be able to pull this off pretty easy...

DDCWAGON

How about front axles are they the same as 2wd?

wagodizzle

oh word, i dont know..

the 2WD driver side is much longer then the pass. side axle...

i have no clue though if the 4WD has the same or if they are equal length half shafts... that you'de have to check out yourself one thing im not sure of as well is whether the front hub/knuckles are any different, i remember readin once that they are... but i cant confirm..

if i was you i'd just change out the entire drivertrain, basically, front hub/knuckles, rear trailing arms, axles, etc from the 4WD to the 2WD

wagodizzle

i should let someone else who actually knows what they are talking about answer this :roll:

DDCWAGON

the right rear has suspension damage from the collision are upper control arms the same as 2wd

wagodizzle

upper control arms as in those dinky little things that connect the top of the big arm thingy with the hubs/brakes/etc to the body? (now you are prolly super confused)

but if thats what you are talking about then YES they are the same, heck, you can even get those on ebay or something AKA "camber kits"

Haydz

Cutting. Welding. Tapping.

If you can't do those then don't bother.

SiWagon

Some 1 on this board or the OG site did the 2WD to 4WD conversion.

DDCWAGON wrote:

How about front axles are they the same as 2wd?

Left side is different.It's a better design.

DDCWAGON wrote:

will there be any cutting for the AT to MT with cables conversion?

Cutting a hole to run the shift cables.Sealing the AT hole in the tunnel.No short shifter for the 4WD.

:arrow: Just doing the AT 2 Manual is a project on it's own.
:idea: Consider swapping the clutch pedal assembly out of a Civic Sdn LX or EX.It's the same except it's set-up for cruise,then later you can add cruise or not.

DDCWAGON

The reason i was asking about the control arm is becuase of the collision damage and the ability to utilize my good 2wd parts. the trialing arm is obviously different for the 4wd. I own a collision/restoration shop so cutting, welding and tapping are no problem. Were you refering to the shifter only or the entire swap for cutt,weld,tap? is this swap more trouble than its worth,should I sell out & just buy a 4wd? my 2wd is already tight & I can get the wrecked 88 4wd for $300. Labor,lifts,tools,resources no problem! how much modifieing will be ness?

curt

http://yota1man.tripod.com/vtecwagon/id4.html
here is the link

DDCWAGON

thanks that was helpfull! why the difference in the frame mount,couldnt u just change mounts AT-MT?

SiWagon

You do just swap the AT-MT mounts.