Seats

i know a couple of people have put different seats in the wagon, so i might as well start a thread to give some other people ideas....



DelSol seats in mine
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  • Pimp. What did you do about brackets. I can't remember do you have a 4wd? I know there's some problem with seats fitting the odd floor plan of the 4wds.

    Here are some other seats people have done (this is taken from the old board):


    Seats: CRX/Civic (EG/EF)
  • duckie8310duckie8310 Senior Wagonist
    the tracks are the wagon tracks, and we had to take them off the wagon seats and take the delsol tracks off, and switch em. so its pretty much half wagon, half delsol. the reason why we did this because the holes didnt match up with the delsol seat.

    nope, 2WD for me

    yeah the CRX Si and Civic Si seats were really popular. i think someone also swapped in ls seats, he had a good DIY with pics and everything. sadly, its gone :x
  • So the DelSols are basically plug and play? Just switch tracks? I just saw a Delsol at the yard with good condition seats in black. What year Delsol or does it matter?
  • duckie8310duckie8310 Senior Wagonist
    eh no 'plug and play' per say.....it took a good two hours to just figure out what to take off. i lost all my old pics of the install when the old board got hacked. but you have to bang some parts off, then mate it onto the other. wagon tracks go onto the delsol seat. i just wish i had those pics for you

    be careful, cuz even tho it 'looks' nice, some dumb people take coffee to junkyards and spill everywhere. i got out like two cups of coffee when i cleaned up the seats. first we took it to a carwash place(the ones you wash yourself and just put quarters) and found the upholstry cleaner with shampoo. it got out any noticeable stains and also got it damp enough for the next part. i used a good and powerful wet/dry vac and started going up and down the seats VERY hard. since the seat is still sorta wet, you can see coffee coming out with the water.

    i dont think year matters, cuz you're gonna be taking things off anyway. if you have any preference.....i think the seat stripe (down the middle of the seat) matched the car color, not sure tho. cuz i've seen a few with red and so on, i was lucky to get one that mtahced the grey-ish of my interior

    but it was definately worth it. they feel great compared to the stock seats. it really gives the feeling of bucket seats (sorta) cuz it holds you a lot better.

    if you need some help, im here :D [/b]

  • that looks tight duckie!!
    nice job!

    :wink:
  • duckie8310duckie8310 Senior Wagonist
    didn't you go with bucket's in your wagon mrwagovan?

    i remember someone at the old board who did this really detailed write-up on how he fab'd a cage for the seat he wanted to put in. wonder if i can still find that...... :?
  • SiWagonSiWagon Council Member
    :( I think it was Clsmooth. :arrow: Enthusiastic Member.
  • Man, I've got some 2001-02 Civic seats in my 87 wagon.
    Its a completely custom job...Lots of cutting/welding/cursing.
    But its much more appealing to the rump than stock sack of potatoes. Especially the driver seat mounted swivel armrest.
    And even though they are tan as the rest of the interior, they really don't match. As in they're nicer than th rest of the interior. Maybe I'll get around to fixing that someday.
  • HaydzHaydz Moderator
    Maybe it just needs some elbow grease and armor all? :D
  • I wish.
    the dash has a couple hairline cracks
    the headliner has two deep gouges from moving a fridge
    the rear speaker installation was mediocre when new and just sucks now
    the rear seats no longer match the front
    the doors feel cheap...both to the touch and when you shut them. Some better quality upholstery would be nice and some new weather trim and dynamat would solve the rest.

    And the list goes on but the cars value hardly makes it worth the effort/expense. In fact I'm thinking of completely stripping everything rear of the front seats and doing a cargo conversion. Weld in some D-rings, add a couple of adjustable/removeable cross braces and several ratcheting tie downs. The upgraded engine/brakes/clutch could justify a towing package.
    I'm just thinking out loud at this point...
  • HaydzHaydz Moderator
    Feel free to think out loud as much as you want. :D

    Ever considered a DIY job on recovering the door panels? You might be able to stretch some kind of fabric (or vinyl/leather if your that way inclined) over the panels.
  • I reupholstered my stock CRX seats several years ago. Despite spending a wad of cash(fabric, foam, tools) and a ton of time(10+ hours), the results were average. Given the labor to satisfaction ratio of the my effort, I vowed to have all future upholstery work done by a professional.
  • HaydzHaydz Moderator
    haha fair enough, i've only ever done speaker enclosures and things along those lines, not whole door panels etc.
  • :D :) :lol: 8) :? :shock:
  • duckie8310duckie8310 Senior Wagonist
    nice 8)
  • SiWagonSiWagon Council Member
    :P :P OH! Ma!Ma Those ARE HOT!
  • duckie8310duckie8310 Senior Wagonist
    Siwagon, did you go with Si seats?

    i was always curious...was there any real difference in the Si Civic and Si CRX seats? probably a dumb question
  • SiWagonSiWagon Council Member
    Helped a friend put in CRX Si seats in his EF HB.I believe both seats are the same except that the mounting brkts were different.There's only 2 reasons I like the Si seats :arrow: L 8) 8) KS & the mag pckt in back.

    Otherwise I prefer the EF HB DX seats.It's firm & the most comfortable seat I've sat in(except for the Recaro's),it looks heavy,but is much lighter than the Si seat,has great lateral support & Looks OEM :arrow: so no 1 will steal it.I believe Honda modeled this seat after the "OG" RECARO LW seat.The '79 Mustang Pace car also had this Recaro seat.The comfort was also confirmed by a Seatlle new wagon onwer on the old board when he bought a wagon.

    At 1 point I tried to swap seats with a Del Sol,but the mod was too much W :cry: RK so I abandon it.If I saw what you did I'd done the mod.Guess I was too tired @ d time. :roll:
  • duckie8310duckie8310 Senior Wagonist
    yeah it was a lot of work. at one point my dad just threw up his hands in defeat. but we came back in an hour with a game plan, rip and tear :lol: it was worth it tho. once we got the passenger seat in, the driver was a breeze.
  • SiWagonSiWagon Council Member
    :D Nice job.At least I know it can be done. :P
  • duckie8310duckie8310 Senior Wagonist
    yeah i only wish i had some pics to help you out
  • SiWagonSiWagon Council Member
    :) Thx any way.That was a few years back,when a friend was going 2 sell her Del Sol.She offered to swap seats b4 she sold it.It would 've been funny :arrow: A Del Sol w/Wgn seats. :lol:
  • duckie8310duckie8310 Senior Wagonist
    :lol:
  • how bout this seats on the wagon? would this fit? im using it on my coupe right now using the stock ITR railings (can only bolt 3) would there be a lot of work to be done?

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  • duckie8310duckie8310 Senior Wagonist
    hmm...you can pretty much make any seat fit with modifications. one guy made a completely new frame to fit his new buckets. others (including me) just mod the whole dang thing.
  • ok will do this when i got my new R ones :lol:
  • diy's!!!!!!!!!
  • duckie8310duckie8310 Senior Wagonist
    http://p196.ezboard.com/fhondacivicwagonfrm15.showMessage?topicID=41.topic

    there's a good link to look at if you want to put some new seats in. man im surprised that's still on the old board
  • akiraboyakiraboy HondaCivicWagon.com Founder
    thanks for finding that
    Heres the post from jhota, I unlocked the topic & pasted it here
    to begin:

    there are two types of aftermarket seats; side-mount and bottom-mount. i've never installed a side-mount seat (in a wagon) but it might be easier in some ways. this will walk you through how i installed a bottom-mount seat in my 1990 2wd wagon.

    an observation:

    because of the design requirements for 4wd, the civic wagons have a much broader tunnel than the other bodystyles. this creates a large height difference between the inner and outer seat slides.

    materials:

    new seat
    steel strap (about 1-1.5 inches broad, about 1/8 thick)
    drill
    assorted nuts and bolts
    welder
    hacksaw/angle grinder

    the process:

    first, remove the factory seat. this involves removing the factory covers over the floor bolts, removing the bolts, unplugging the auto shoulder belt from the door track, and unplugging the belt electrical harness.

    now that you have the seat out, take a look at the side that was by the door. it should look like this:
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    pull off the recline handle (it just slides off), and remove the two screws holding the cover on. you will be able to remove the cover, exposing the bolts that attach the seat to the outside rail.

    the other side should look like this:
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    remove the two 10 mm nuts holding the belt reel and lap belt plug in place and set the assembly to one side. you can then unbolt this rail from the seat as well.

    the bottom of your new seat should look something like this:
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    you'll notice that there is no way this will line up with the factory rails, especially on the outside.

    so, bolt the bare factory rails back down, and slide them all the way back. you will notice that the seat mounting holes not only aren't in the same plane (horizontal vs. vertical) they don't line up side-to-side either.

    using steel strap, construct something like this:
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    lay down the side-to-side stringers first. i used a torch, vise and hammer to bend the ends 90 degrees, but there are other ways to do it; a brake would have been nice.

    once you have them sized for length, drill appropriate sized holes and bolt them to the rails. i suggest using nylon locknuts, as you really don't want this coming loose later.

    measure the distances between the mounting holes on your seat, both fore-and-aft and side-to-side. use the side-to-side measurement to determine where the next pair of straps will go (based on centerline of bracket). i suggest checking this against the line of the steering column before welding anything down permanently, btw.

    make the next pair of straps about six or seven inches longer than the fore-and-aft distance between mounting holes on the seat. tack them in place with plenty of overhang; now set the seat on them and check for clearance. slide it forward until the rear base of the seat lines up (roughly) with the back side-to-side strap. make sure the seat is straight and centered on the fore-and-aft rails, then mark your rear mounting hole positions.

    take the seat out, and, assuming everything was lined up correctly, do your final welds to hold the front-to-back rails in place. measure forward from your rear hole positions and mark your front holes. drill all four mounting holes and bolt the seat in place. now, mark the excess protruding rails, remove the seat (last time!), and cut off the excess.

    bolt the seat back down, and you're done!

    closing notes:

    you can use the factory seatbelts with a lot of seats; i use them with mine, and it's a full FIA-approved fixed back race bucket. all you have to do is re-mount the shoulder belt reel to the tunnel side rail and re-plug the wiring harness. if you don't want to, just jumpering a couple of the wires on the car side of the harness will shut off the light and buzzer.

    if you decide to use aftremarket belts, especially 5-point belts, be very careful with how you mount them! whatever brand you decide to use, i suggest you follow the guidelines on http://www.simpsonracing.com/catalog/restraints/restinfo.aspSimpson's site. Improperly installed harnesses can kill you, even in a relatively minor shunt or accident where factory belts would have let you walk away. i would also avoid Y-type shoulder belts.

    now, one cosmetic issue:
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    this is where the outside cover went on the factory seat. i left it off, because my car isn't about looks. it would be fairly easy to modify that cover to work with most aftermarket seats, or even make a cover from other materials.
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