88 Wagovan rear seat removal

PorterWagonneer

How to remove the rear seat back pivot bracket from the floor/body?

TerminusVox

If the Wagovan seat are built the same as the DX seats (sans headrests) there is a spacer on the hinge point between the seat backs which, when removed, will allow you to slide each seat back alternately toward the center of the car which will allow the hinge pin on the outside of the seat back slide out.

bam-bam

I'm not sure,Pat. Since the wagovan seatback is one-piece instead of 60/40 split it probably locks differently

PorterWagonneer

Got the seat back out by detaching the vinyl at each end of the seat back and removing two 10?mm bolts (14 mm hex head) that attach the seat back to the pivot bracket.
However, still can not figure out how take the mount brackets out of the car. Each bracket has one bolt and one stud/rivet? I've removed the bolts from each bracket but can not find an access point to get to the nut that has to be threaded onto the stud - if it is a stud. Looks as if the nut would be inside what would be the frame of the car if it had a frame; box section.
If it is a rivet how was it bucked? Again. no access.
Richard suggests drilling the rivet/stud out. I can do that & then weld a stud in place so that I will have to remove a bolt and a nut the next? time I do this.
Getting obsessive about cleaning the car. And I still haven't done anything about getting it through emissions so I can get a tag. Cart before the horse.

TerminusVox

bam-bam wrote:

I'm not sure,Pat. Since the wagovan seatback is one-piece instead of 60/40 split it probably locks differently

^THIS^ is why I said "if". Never actually seen/been inside of a for real Wagovan.

wagodizzle

could you post pictures of what these rivets/studs are? it doesnt seem like you would need to drill anything to remove a seat :S

PorterWagonneer

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Hopefully this is a picture of the bracket with the mystery rivet? If not, I would not want to be held responsible for the end of the civilized (wagovan) world.

Last time I took a picture there was gun powder in the flash bar.....

rbwdriven

yep the picture he sent me I went wth kind of thing.

I said mine aint like that.

I had to look online to give suggestions on how to get the seat out.

It does not show how to get the brackets out though.

PorterWagonneer

I tried the above path & got no where so I shortened it to the path shown below & it pulls up the pictures.

http://s1148.photobucket.com/albums/o56 ... t005-1.jpg

Technology is just to fast for me, sort of like "Trying to reason with hurricane season."

rbwdriven

PorterWagonneer wrote:

I tried the above path & got no where so I shortened it to the path shown below & it pulls up the pictures.

http://s1148.photobucket.com/albums/o56 ... t005-1.jpg

Technology is just to fast for me, sort of like "Trying to reason with hurricane season."

fixed

here you go

rbwdriven

Pat,
Have you tried a set of vice grips on that part.
Try twisting it.
Rich

PorterWagonneer

Tried the vice grip route last week - nothing. Sprayed it down w pb blaster (can I say brand names?).
Tried a bigger pair of vice grips & more torque today. Threaded rivet head stud backed right out. Nut is welded in / under floor pan.
Thnx Richard!

Still puzzled as to why honda would do that that way.

Learning to love more & more my wagovan!