Glass roof

I have been searching for this, but cannot find any info. Has anyone ever done a solid glass/plexi roof? My wife had a Scion TC and I loved the glass roof. I figured that someone must have done that to a wagon.
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  • bam-bambam-bam Council Member
    I don't believe I've seen it done yet. Lead the way!
  • 1sickboy1sickboy Band Wagon
    That would be sick...I thought about putting a sliding rag top in mine like the old vdubs. I did a hard top convertible years ago on one of my mini trucks, worked out great! easy on and off.

    Good luck! Keep us posted on this if you can or do it.
  • 88rt88rt Band Wagon
    1sickboy wrote:
    That would be sick...I thought about putting a sliding rag top in mine like the old vdubs. I did a hard top convertible years ago on one of my mini trucks, worked out great! easy on and off.

    Good luck! Keep us posted on this if you can or do it.

    i want to ragtop my wagon. one of my friends was always threatening to sawz-all the roof off my hatch :lol:
  • It made by webasto(hollandia).

    google image hollandia grandview panoramic #524 and the rag top is called hollandia power folding sunroof #400.

    I did both to my scions.

    I wouldn't do this to a civic wagon, its to rare. only my opinion.
  • bam-bambam-bam Council Member
    MrM3 has a sliding ragtop on his wagon- check out the IA pictures.
  • MrM3MrM3 Council Member
    I'm trying to get some pics rounded up and then I'll post me putting it in.
  • MrM3MrM3 Council Member
    Here is some pics of me doing my ragtop. Overall it was an easy process, it only took four hours. If you daily your car I don't recommend doing this as it leaks pretty bad in the rain. I'm going to try to work out the leaking issues but I don't have high hopes.

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  • Ben06Ben06 Wagonist
    hey mrm3 hey where did you get that at? And is it leaking from the fabric or between the metal frame and the roof? Cuz I'm thinking about doing this to my wagon
  • jp86jp86 Band Wagon
    looks fun, but I'd be concerned with weakening the car. Did you notice more hatch rattle after it was done?
  • MrM3MrM3 Council Member
    Ben06 wrote:
    hey mrm3 hey where did you get that at? And is it leaking from the fabric or between the metal frame and the roof? Cuz I'm thinking about doing this to my wagon

    It's leaking between the frame and the canvas part of the roof. http://store.gaugemagazine.com/
    jp86 wrote:
    looks fun, but I'd be concerned with weakening the car. Did you notice more hatch rattle after it was done?

    The center section of the roof structurally does very little so there is no reason why it would be weakened. For being a heavily modified 21 year old car it is fairly quiet, no more rattling than you would expect.
  • Why would you do that?

    Don't worry about losing any support. If you drive on the freeway on a windy day with the windows down, you can hear / feel the roof pop up and down and sounds exactly like what it is: one big piece of unsupported sheet metal.
  • 86hamstersi86hamstersi Band Wagon
    thats a beautiful wagon. i wonder what it would take to stop the leak. if you dont mind me asking around how much did you spend on the roof mod.
  • MrM3MrM3 Council Member
    Why would you do that?

    Don't worry about losing any support. If you drive on the freeway on a windy day with the windows down, you can hear / feel the roof pop up and down and sounds exactly like what it is: one big piece of unsupported sheet metal.

    Have you driven a wagon with a ragtop? I drove 6 hours each way with the roof wide open to IA with no "popping up and down" of the roof. There's a reason there is a metal frame: to help support the roof. Also if you take a look at the pics again you will see that there isn't enough roof there to classify it as "one big piece of unsupported sheet metal." Actually I would probably go out on a limb and say that the roof is quieter now when it is closed than the factory tin can roof.
    thats a beautiful wagon. i wonder what it would take to stop the leak. if you dont mind me asking around how much did you spend on the roof mod.

    I received a business discount so after shipping it was a little under $600.
  • EF-ingwagonEF-ingwagon New Wagonist
    ragtop looks sick.,,...
  • midwestazmidwestaz Band Wagon
    does it leak? idk about where you live but up here in the midwest it gets cold during the winter...
  • ZakkZakk Wagonist
    In theory, the glass roof should be fairly easy. It seems like its a lot like Mr's ragtop, cut a hole and throw in the glass with a frame on it.

    I would imagine the glass would need a bit of a frame underneath it?
  • dont they make crx with glass roofs ? hella rare but i think i seen it once or twice on honda-tech...

    im sure you and do pretty much the same thing as MrM3 and just mount a piece of glass to a metal frame and drop it in your roof...< obviously not that easy haha
  • BuckweedBuckweed Band Wagon
    an all cf roof would be awesome
  • MrM3MrM3 Council Member
    midwestaz wrote:
    does it leak? idk about where you live but up here in the midwest it gets cold during the winter...

    Yes it leaks. I'm from central Indiana so I know all about midwest winters.
    Buckweed wrote:
    an all cf roof would be awesome

    That was my original plan.
  • DRMORTYDRMORTY Council Member
    I am glad that you posted this... Had me curious too... Was considering doing it, but the leak thing has me worried...
  • Old SkoolOld Skool Council Member
    dont they make crx with glass roofs ? hella rare but i think i seen it once or twice on honda-tech...
    There is one at the local wreckers.. I pulled all the goodies off it..
    cluster/ "coin box" / mirror-map lights/ illuminated bumper pole-switch/ headlights (h4)
    It has pwr windows-AC- and the glass roof and a its a Automatic w/16valve dual carb.
  • HaydzHaydz Moderator
    Yeah moonroof CRXs are fairly commonplace here.
  • the rag top was an awesome idea, i think a glass top / plexi glass would look even better. would be nice to see one on a wagon.
  • jameskjamesk Wagonist
    Wow great work, sucks about the leakage though...
  • ZakkZakk Wagonist
    Okay, since I first read this thread a few days it has sat in the back of my mind. I tossed the idea around and did a bit of a research and now I think I have a plan. I had originally planned to just do it without telling anyone so I would have an awesome surprise, but I would rather not cut the roof of my wagon without outside advice as y'all on the forum know a hell of a lot more then I.

    My build will be a budget build, but I'm not gonna sacrifice quality if I don't have to. I just am going to buy/build everything instead of buying it prebuilt. Overall, it looks like a fairly cheap project, but before I go ahead and buy anything, I'm gonna ask for opinions.

    Here is my Pro-CAD designed mock-up.

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    Okay, now for a basic explanation. I would like the roof to be removable which is making it a little more complicated, but I believe it will be worth it in the end. It would basically be a sheet of Lexan (most likely) set into a frame on the roof. I am hoping it to be around the same size as MrM3's ragtop as that looks really good. In between the Lexan and frame would be a padding (something along the lines of felt) to not only reduce vibration, but to help with waterproofing. Also, for waterproofing, in between the window frame and the wagon would be Silicone caulk made for metal.

    Some problems I have with my concept..

    1. How should I hold the glass to the vehicle? I want it to hold the glass down well, yet still leave me the ability to remove it when I want. I was thinking some sort of latch system, but it seems too gaudy. A friend also brought up the idea of magnets, but I'm not too sure about that.

    2. What are the types of places that would build the frame for me or will I have to find someone to personally weld it for me?


    More questions to come. I'll put together my own thread when I feel I have a solid idea down and some of the supplies.

    More questions to come probably. I'll open a thread for my own build when I feel I have enough of the idea together.
  • If this really goes through it will be monumental and I am ready to drool at the finished product in picture form!
  • ZakkZakk Wagonist
    Okay, been looking for the best way to hold it down. I want it inconspicuous, but also very safe. The best options at the moment seem to be either...

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    A latch along those lines, but MUCH smaller, less noticeable. Sort of like you would find on an old wooden trunk.

    I have also toyed with the idea of using these...

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    But the issue is that they are so expensive. (around $75 each)


    So at the moment I am stumped. Any ideas?
  • MrM3MrM3 Council Member
    Keep in mind that the roof is curved at the front so you will have to bend the lexan if you want to follow the contour. Note the small cuts at the front of the frame to make the bend.

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    Another idea would be to use a frame similar to mine that has a lip inside that the lexan can sit on and drill some holes through the lexan to run bolts down through into welded in nuts on the inside frame. it wouldn't be a quick removal but with 8 or so bolts it would be very secure and less than 5 minutes to remove. With a flexible weatherstrip it would seal pretty well too.

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  • ZakkZakk Wagonist
    I've known I have to curve it, and I know how, I am just kind of scared to do it :P

    Also, check your PM box when you get a moment. :)
  • MrM3MrM3 Council Member
    Inbox is empty. I got the one a couple of days ago and I answered it
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