Do the japanese Hate us?

tracked wagontracked wagon Council Member
in General Civic Wagon Discussion
Or is it the us just wont let them send all of the cool stuff here. You cant tell me that if sir civics were made available here that they wouldnt sell. Or how about type-r ek's What I wouldn't give for one. As you may know I have the tracked wagon and I would love to have some of the jdm stuff they got elsewhere but lets face it Not worth what I am going to have to spend to get it. I also have a 91 ef hatch with a b20 vtec and would love to do a sir converson. I just dont see why we did'nt get them. A civic with a factory b16 You know they would have sold!!! Oh well I guess I just needed to vent!!!

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  • HaydzHaydz Moderator
    AFAIK the american market did not desire such cars at the time. Hindsight is 20/20.
  • progressprogress Wagonist
    Plus some things wouldn't pass US safety standards like the rear seats in the JDM CRXs for example.
  • evol911evol911 familEE
    A 88-91 Civic B16 would sell in the US now, but not in 88-91. Thats the problem, I definitely was not in the market for Crx Sir when I was 10 or 11 but maybe there was a small demand for them. Its like the 1st gen Mugen body Crx's, thats the holy grail to many,many people but there was very little demand for it so Mugen drifted from the USDM arena.
  • progressprogress Wagonist
    Ya, i agree with not wanting an 88-91 in 88-91 but wanting one now. It's like those Smart Cars. I don't want one now but ask me again 20 years from now and, well, I'll probably still NOT want one. Sorry. Bad example...
  • wickedwahinewickedwahine Band Wagon
    Perhaps its all a grand scheme conspiracy to keep Ricers from taking over? :lol:
  • broodybroody New Wagonist
    They don't sell the nice stuff new because the new buyers are too young to afford or don't need sport car. People with money will get a reall sport coupe, not a ricer car with a big engine. And anyways, now (in Canada at least, not usa) we can have all the old jdm cars (15+ years) for dirt cheap. I got my turbo mr2 for 6k$.
  • doitdubdoitdub familEE
    I think they're still pissed about that whole Hiroshima and Nagasaki thing.

    It's like come on, let the past be the past and just give us some cool freakin cars already!
  • ragenasianragenasian Moderator
    http://cgi.ebay.de/HONDA-CRX-MUGEN-CIVI ... 45f05a2f8a

    We get most of the cool Hondas here in Germany and I can also drive to the UK and buy any of the Japanese cars at a fraction of the US inflated prices. :mrgreen:
  • CharbCharb Administrator
    People like to forget that we had a couple B16 Civics-

    EM1- which sold well, and was stolen even better... (had one of these new myself, my favorite car ever btw... my insurance was as expensive as my car payment, with minimal infractions)

    And the first- del Sol, which sold like shit, and stolen easier than the EM1

    Look what happened after 99 with the EM1... the scene BLEW THE FUCK UP (won't credit just that car, but the timing was perfect). And then look what happened after Subaru brought the WRX over. Remember the first electric car by GM? They thought no one would buy it, so they bought Hummer and created the H2. We all know where this is going...

    Is it too much to ask for a Toyota Hilux? I'd probably give up Honda's if I could have one like the Top Gear North Pole Hilux's lol
  • HaydzHaydz Moderator
    You'd hate me if you saw my friends Hilux... and his M.A.N truck... and his other Hilux..
  • evol911evol911 familEE
    Wait :!: :!: There was a B-series Del Sol sold in the US, I thought is was just the D-series VTEC.
  • ThaClutcHThaClutcH Senior Wagonist
    evol911 wrote:
    Wait :!: :!: There was a B-series Del Sol sold in the US, I thought is was just the D-series VTEC.

    Yupp. I forgot what year. Maybe 97 and up or 98. Forgot, but it did come with a B16.
  • SiWagonSiWagon Council Member
    doitdub wrote:
    I think they're still pissed about that whole Hiroshima and Nagasaki thing.

    I tend to agree with doitdub.Germany gets the cars 'cuz they were partners during WWII.Not even UK gets all the cool cars.The closest USDM got to getting a cool car was the ITR(DC2).They even screwed with Australia .They got the ITR name,but all it was was a Acura RSX type S with the ITR name tag. :lol: :lol: NO Brembos....NO Recaros...No ITR engine....NO LSD. :lol:

    The other reason is the Japanese pride thing.They want to keep the best in the homeland.Even Mazda does it with the Miata & RX-7.
  • turbo_tegturbo_teg Council Member
    doitdub wrote:
    I think they're still pissed about that whole Hiroshima and Nagasaki thing.

    It's like come on, let the past be the past and just give us some cool freakin cars already!

    thats what i was thinkin
  • udubrx7udubrx7 Senior Wagonist
    evol911 wrote:
    Wait :!: :!: There was a B-series Del Sol sold in the US, I thought is was just the D-series VTEC.

    B16A2 VTEC
    Found in:
    1992-2000 Honda Civic EDM VTi (EG6/EG9 & EK4)
    1992-1997 Honda Civic Del Sol EDM VTi (EG)
    1996-1997 Honda Civic Del Sol USDM "VTEC"
    1999-2000 Honda Civic USDM Si (EM1)
    1999-2000 Honda Civic CAN SiR (EM1)
    Power: 160 hp (119 kW) @ 7600 rpm & 111 lb·ft (150 N·m) @ 7000 rpm
    Redline...8000 rpm
    Rev Limit...8450 rpm
    VTEC Engagement...5,500 rpm
    aluminium casting

    B16A3 VTEC
    Found in:
    1994-1995 Del Sol VTEC (this might not be USDM)
    Power: 160 hp (119 kW) @ 7,600 rpm & 118 ft·lbf (160 N·m) @ 7,500 rpm
    Redline: 8,200 rpm
  • tapia831tapia831 New Wagonist
    I think 95 usdm del sols had a b16.. the only donor car to get a p30 ecu to legally bar any obd1 here in california.. really rare..
  • NZ-DB8RNZ-DB8R Moderator
    NZ got pretty gay models as well, the difference is the majority of our cars have since been Imported from Japan. Seriously, probably at least every second car you see on NZ roads is a secondhand Japanese Import.

    NZDM cars were very similar to USDM cars, bsae model and generally always carburetted. There were a few of the better models sold (DOHC VTEC) but they were detuned models with less power than the Japanese models.
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