Real-Time 4WD Information

Real-Time 4WD

RT4WD = Real-Time 4WD
AWD = All Wheel Drive
FWD = Front Wheel Drive
RWD = Rear Wheel Drive

Throwout Bearing, 87-91 RT4WD: 22810-PH8-008

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  • RT4WD

    This is all straight from the 89 civic service manual.

    General
    When there is no difference in speed between the No.1 and viscous coupling unit (No.2 propeller shaft) , power is transmitted to the front wheels through the front differential and the front driveshafts. The left driveshaft is connected to the differential by an intermediate shaft, The power is also turned 90 degrees by the transfer gears and transmitted to the No.1 propeller shaft. Whenever there is any speed difference between the No.1 propeller shaft and viscous coupling unit (No.2 propeller shaft), power is transmitted to the rear wheels via the viscous coupling unit, the No.2 and No,3 propeller shafts, the rear differential and the rear driveshafts.

    Front Driveshaft
    An intermediate shaft equalizes the length and angle of both driveshafts for easier steering on bumpy roads. The driveshaft end of this shaft runs on a bearing which is held by a holder on the engine case. A constant velocity universal joint at each end of the driveshafts ensures quieter operation and longer life. The front wheels run on an angular bearing for reduced friction

    Propeller Shaft
    The propeller shaft carries power from the transfer to the rear differential. It is of a 2-piece construction and is supported by two rubber mounted bearings. The shaft has four universal joints: one tripod type and three yoke-and-spider type. These joints permit the shaft to lengthen and shorten, as the rear suspension moves.

    Viscous Coupling
    The viscous coupling unit is located on the front end of the No.2 propeller shaft. It consists of a housing that is connected to the No.1 propeller shaft by a tripod joint. Inside the houning are 79 plates, which have 0.2 mm (0.008 in.) of clearance between one another, surrounded by silicon oil. The 40 housing plates are engaged with the splines in the housing and the 39 hub plates are splined to the shaft. The plates have holes in them to aid in heat dissipation. The viscous coupling unit also contains approximately 10 % air to allow for the thermal expansion of the silicon oil.

    Whenever there is any difference in the speed of rotation between the No.1 and No.2 propeller shafts, such as when the front wheels lose traction, there is friction between the housing plates (drive side) and the hub plates (driven side) .This friction is caused by the resistance of the plates sliding against the silicon oil. This resistance between the plates and the silicon oil is what begins to transmit torque from the housing plates to the hub plates and eventually to the rear wheels. This transmission of torque is proportionate to the difference in the speed of rotation of the wheels.

    As the difference in propeller shaft speed continues, the temperature of the silicon oil keeps rising. Due to thermal expansion, the pressure inside the viscous coupling unit is also increasing as the temperature rises.
    When the pressure becomes high enough, the housing plates begin to contact the hub plates and the engine torque to the rear wheels increases rapidly, as noted in the diagram below. To reduce plate wear, there are spacer rings to limit plate to plate contact.
  • If you weld a solid piece in place of the viscous coupler, will it be 50/50?
  • If you weld a solid piece in place of the viscous coupler, will it be 50/50?

    Sure! All time all-wheel drive!!
  • If you weld a solid piece in place of the viscous coupler, will it be 50/50?


    has anyone done this>>???
  • its been done ... im sure the rear diff wont last long tho
  • its been done ... im sure the rear diff wont last long tho

    Why wouldn't it?? The rear diff is always in motion as it is, do you think put some torque to it is going to instantly cook it? It will hold, no problem.
  • ive owned a couple talons .. and i thought the rears on those looked weak ... so when i see the one on my honda it makes me shudder ... my first car was a nova with a 12 bolt tho so im used to beefy pumpkins :lol:
  • The axles are actually thicker than domestic axles. I think the main killer would be ripped or blown mounts. I would definetly make sure your motor mounts and rear diff mounts are new.
  • the rear tires dont follow the same line around a turn as the front .. resulting in uneven rotation between the front and rear tires ... would dragging the ass end around a sharrp turn be an issue? .. open diff is new to me so im not sure how it works
  • im a rwd guy, got a few buddies that welded their rear diffs in 240s and AEs. it should be fine. only problem is when you drive normally around turn/corner it tends screech at times. if that doesn't bother you then do it. but i would say if its not a drift/track car, there's no point or need in doing so.
  • what, you used up all your grease...


    j.k



    :mrgreen:
  • In a 4WD, there has to be differential drive between front and back for several reasons.

    Different tyres.

    Different tyre pressures.

    Different path lengths through curves.

    On soft surfaces this does not matter as reduced traction lets the tyres slip a little to compensate before to much tension builds up, but on hard surfaces the tension accumulates to the point that the tyres get hot and wear and as slip eventually occurs it sends a shudder through the drive train.

    Don't weld up the fluid coupling unless you ONLY drive on soft surfaces.
  • HRspecHRspec Band Wagon
    If you were to disengage the 4wd gearbox , and drive normally would the viscous coupling overheat after a prolounged period or is it safe to disengage the lever when driving normally?
  • It is safe. Some people like to disengage the 4WD in summer, or for a (debatable) effect on fuel economy.
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