Prepping and painting wheels?

I've got some stock RT white wheels that have scratches here and there and need refinished. They also need the tires replaced, so I figured I would get the tires off and to the painting then.

Anyone have any advice for the following:
Getting the tires off the rim at home? - I'd rather not take them somewhere and get charged $10 a tire just to take them home, paint them, and go back and pay another $10 mounting fee for the new tires.

Prepping and paint them??

Thanks.

Comments

  • Sandblasting them would be the best. If you don't have one just use some sandpaper to clean them up. Lips I have sanded down also to get some of the rash out but of course if it is too bad you can't do too much with it. For deep knicks on steel rims you can get a welder and put a small weld on there and grind it down to fit the original lip. The shops do that here with aluminum ones too. If there is paint on there I use just household paint stripper to clean it off. After that just sand them down, wash to get all the dust off and paint. As with anything the better the prep the better the finish.
  • bam-bambam-bam Council Member
    If the original finish is reasonably intact, I wouldn't recommend removing it. Nothing you can do at home will adhere as well to the bare steel. Just consider the old finish as a primer, spot treat any rough areas, sand/prime/paint.

    Mounting/dismounting tires at home? Sure, I do it all the time. Some specialty tools like a tire hammer and a pair of spoons help, but aren't necessary. I made my tire spoons from 2 old GM jack crank handles, I think Northern sells a pair for like $25. Large screwdrivers or small crowbars work too. It's the same as a bicycle tire, just bigger :D

    Let all the air out (duh)

    Make up a soap solution, just dish soap and water. Apply to both beads. Don't use petroleum lubes, they degrade rubber.

    Break both tire beads loose from the rim-this can be the hard part. I have a duckbill hammer for the purpose. The next best thing is a jack: lay the tire/wheel flat under a vehicle and put the base of your jack on the bead of the tire. Use the jack to push the tire down. When I was a kid we used bumper jacks... don't see those much anymore! I've also driven trucks over tires to break them down (not recommended, but it works.)

    Look at the rim and see which lip is narrower. You MUST take the tire off this side! Lay the tire on the ground, narrow side up. Apply more soap. Now, use your first bar to pry the tire bead off the rim WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY pushing the bead down directly opposite your bar. Now, while holding the first bar down, get another "bite" with the other bar a few inches along the bead. You'll know if you try to do too much at once, it just won't work. Conversely, if it's way easy you could've gone bigger. Do a few and you'll get a feel for it.
    Now hold the second bar down, and use the first bar to get the next bite. At this point you should be able to pull off the first bead by hand.

    Repeat the process for the other bead.

    Installation is the reverse of removal, and again, you MUST go from the narrower lip side of the rim.

    Above all, WORK SAFELY! If you think 40 bucks to have the tires dismounted is steep, try a trip to the ER. Just use common sense, please. I've injured myself working on tires, but then again I've done hundreds of them...
  • Jim2Jim2 Band Wagon
    I just did a quick repaint of my wheels. I used some 320 grit and steel wool to clean them up and then painted them with Duplicolor wheel paint. I bought new snow tires from Discount tire, and had them dismount the old tires, took them home and painted them and them brought them back for the snows. They have to dismount the old ones to mount the new ones. Just go and pay the tire store in advance for the mounting.
  • Marc_EE9Marc_EE9 Senior Wagonist
    Excellent, a subject I know a lot about! :D
    I've refurbished about 7 or 8 sets of wheels now.

    If the tyres are on, its no worries taping up the rim - just takes a bit longer, or use a pack of playing cards like Billboard did on his red RT GT3's, and lay a dust sheet round the tyre.
    Getting the tyre off is best, and if its off you may as well get them sandblasted, as mentioned already.

    Just a quick guide...

    *You want a well vented and warm/hot room, smaller the better, dust mask as well are essential. Quality masking tape is also a must!
    - I rough up (after the old paint is stripped off) with 120grit sandpaper.
    - Then apply red oxide/zinc or another corrosion preventing primer.
    - Give it at least 3 coats, I turn the wheel 90degrees each time to stay even, and go horozontal with the spray. Leave to dry for a few hours so its completely dry.
    - Wet sand with 400grit paper. Apply another layer of primer to make sure the whole wheel is covered and no imperfections.
    - Then lightly wet sand with 800grit paper.
    - Apply colour, in the same way as primer, making sure the whole wheel is covered. It can be tricky as some wheels are a PITA to get paint in all the spokes. Don't sand the colour!
    - Before last coat of the colour is dry, apply first coat of lacquer, same way as previous. Leave to dry for an hour at least. Apply at least 3 more coats of lacquer, repeating the previous method.
    - When all lacquer has been applied, let it dry for as long as you can. You can leave it as it is, but depending on the wheel, and the out-come...
    - Then after at least 24hrs, wet sand it with 2000grit, with some car shampoo in the water.
    - After you've wet/soap sanded, get some decent cutting paste and polish up that shit, give it a good buff!

    Polishing rims... (do before spraying!!!)
    - Make sure there is no lacquer or paint on the rim
    - For really bad corrosion, sand with 120grit, for good condition use 240grit.
    - Now wet sand, starting at 240, and going to 1200grit.
    - Next get some wirewool/scouring pad with some Autosol or metal polish, go round the rim with it a few times.
    - Buff off, and repeat if necessary.
    - Now wet sand with 2000grit.
    - Then use some wool or an old fleece with some metal polish on, and go round each rim a few times.
    - Buff off, reapet if necessary. Job done!
  • Cool...thanks for the heads up everyone!!
  • CharbCharb Administrator
    Surprised Bill hasn't chimed in...

    Post pics when you get around to doing yours!
  • BillBoardBillBoard council member
    Charb1618 wrote:
    Surprised Bill hasn't chimed in...

    Post pics when you get around to doing yours!

    lols foshizzle... i just sand, then stick a deck of cards around the outside and spray...

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  • marmar206marmar206 Band Wagon
    ^Clean!
  • I'm will billboard on this one, KISS, keep it simple stupid.
  • Tell me what you guys use to repaint the RT4WD plastic "hubcaps" and how to prep those.

    I'm looking to re do my RT steelies as well.
  • Bill, I assume you used wheel paint on those?
  • looks good. i need to do the same to mine.
  • Looks bad ass. The wagon at the height also looks mean. :lol:
  • Thanks guys, not perfect, but it'll do for winter wheels. A quick, cheap fix to nasty, beat wheels. I'm diggin the lifted look as well. :lol:
  • That lift reminds me of the VW Country they sell over here. Basically a lifted 4x4 VW Golf.

    I will own one, one of these days.

    golf4x4.jpg
  • ragenasian wrote:
    That lift reminds me of the VW Country they sell over here. Basically a lifted 4x4 VW Golf.

    I will own one, one of these days.

    www.civicwagon.com

    That is insane looking!! :D
  • cool
  • bam-bambam-bam Council Member
    I want that Golf with a turbo diesel. Ship me one, ragenasian?
  • Done deal bam-bam send me your address and I will start shipping it in flat rate boxes. :lol: :lol:

    Here is the chrome edition
    http://cgi.ebay.de/VW-Golf-Country-Sync ... 3a54faa604

    It definately needs some more power though. 72kw (90hp) for power isn't all that much.


    Thread jack thread jack! :mrgreen:
  • Marc_EE9Marc_EE9 Senior Wagonist
    id love one of these one day...
    i saw one for sale locally, in purple. sold pretty damn quick too

    8)

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-MK2-Golf-GTI-1 ... 45eefc144f
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