Just bought an 88' rt4wd, wondering if I made a mistake.....

So I just bought a 4wd last night, its my first 4wd. I had a fwd that I sold in april and had a chance to buy it again last month, but it had brand new 13,000 new miles added on. So I decided to move on. I bought a 1964 baja bug to be my winter car, but with winter getting closer I decied that water cooled would be better for heat. Anyway I found this wagon 50 miles from home, so I thought I would check it out. Well I bought it. Its got a strong motor. It runs well except for a wierd idle issue. Anyway the car has rust, more than I have seen on cars like this. More like rust on old volkswagens that I have owned. The guy that I bought the car from said that he had put the car on a lift to make sure the 4wd worked. It lookes like the jackass I bought it from lifted the car with a two post lift, by lifting by the front FLOOR BAORDS! Really? So the car has problems, but what the ......? Here is a pic I had in my phone. I'll post more pics of the car and the floor stuff tomarrow. Did I make a mistake?

This is before I washed it and cleaned the wheels.

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Comments

  • looks way clean. Don't worry about the floor boards. You might be able to just kick them back out from the inside. As long as it didn't make holes, you'll probably be ok. Looks good though!
  • Welcome from another old v-dub guy!

    Rust is everyone's enemy. It's tough to avoid. It can be fixed, but sometimes requires significant effort.

    I don't think you'll find anyone here claiming you made a mistake, especially not with the RT4WD. Some folks have different ideas about the year, but the '88 was lighter than later years, and was the last model to come with manual seatbelts; the automatic belts are widely despised. So in terms of the model and year, I think you did great. Especially if the price was right.

    One of the reasons I was an old Bug guy was because of the wide availability of parts. Unfortunately, that's not the case for the Wagons. If your floorboards are dented, you'll have to pound them straight yourself; I doubt you'll be able to find a new pan. You might manage to get something at a junkyard, but our only other resource is swapping with the board members.

    The motors are standard, thankfully. Honda reliability! By and large the Wagon is pretty easy to work on, too. There's sufficient space in the engine compartment, and most of the parts are bolt-on. It's not like the VW Thing, which could be completely disassembled with a screwdriver and two ratchets, but it's not bad: I've got a small toolbox in my trunk with all the tools I've ever needed when working on my car. It's small.

    The 4WD is a lot of fun, especially in snowy climates and off-road conditions. The cargo area has surprising room. Together, these make the Wagon an ideal camping machine. Unlike most similar machines, it's also a fantastic daily driver.

    I think you'll find you've made a good choice. I don't think it'll cure you of your air-cooled addiction, but I do think you'll find yourself gravitating towards the Wagon on a regular basis, just for the fun!
  • Dave-ODave-O Wagonist
    Looks like a good buy to me. Hell, it's the clean OEM version of my beater-wagon.

    If you feel like you've made a mistake, let me know and I'll drive out with a trailer and take it off your hands. :twisted: :lol:
  • theidealonetheidealone New Wagonist
    Damn. Thats the 88 that was on Craigslist in Denver? I thought about picking that up... I like it. If you dont want it, lemme know. :)
  • Ok, ok.... I'm going to keep it. Geez... :D Thanks for all of the kind words guys. This is the 88 that was for sale in Denver. I have a couple more pics.

    wagon.jpg

    wagon1.jpg

    All washed and ready to be registered.
  • By the way, I still have a couple of vw's. Note the baja in the garage, and the bus on the side. But, the bus is for sale.
  • yeah yeah yeah...
    rub it in ...
    realll good...


    post some more pixxx...
    :lol:
  • quartersquarters Council Member
    pffft. that's not even rusty! come to canada sometime and see what rust is all about. nice find.
  • Ask and you shall recieve.

    Yesterday I picked up this driver mirror and bumper lens from a wagon at the scrap yard. Score!
    Does anyone have a corner lens for sale?
    hondawagon2.jpg

    I took the crapy aftermarket radio out. Looking for something oem. Maybe my cr-v cd player.
    hondawagon.jpg

    And here are the damaged floor boards I was talking about earlyer.
    hondawagon3.jpg
    hondawago1.jpg
  • :shock: i dont see any rust


    edit: ok yeah the undercarriage is a lil jacked up meng...nothing not worth fixing tho :mrgreen: nice find
  • Who lifts a car by its body pan, anyway?!? Sheesh. That guy needs to get out of the gene pool.

    At least it looks repairable. Just pound it down, prime anywhere the paint came off, and cover it with a floor mat. On the bottom you'll probably want to caulk it. Nobody's going to look under there anyway.
  • HaydzHaydz Moderator
    Sorry to say it - you can call me negative but i think that floorpan is F U C K E D.

    In my opinion you will most likely regret fixing it if you do. And even if you did, i doubt the car will be anywhere as good as it used to be.

    Your best bet is to find a donor shell and swap everything across.
  • I was kindof thinking of swapping everything if I found one with a bad motor or something. I found one with a bad motor for 400 bucks, but I think its pretty far away. So I will wait to see if one shows up locally. But really, I bought this car to get me around in the snow, which it should do fine. I will pound out the floor and see what happens. I was really worried about it, but now I'm not. I just want to drive it.


    Its supposed to snow this week. I hope we get dumped on. :D
  • realtimefunrealtimefun Senior Wagonist
    it looks good compeared to mine i have the same kinda damage from going off roading
  • I'm in denver, and my floors looked like that. I took a 5 pound hammer, and a 1 pound dead soft hammer and wailed on the floor, and it came almost all of the way out. Can't make it worse than it already is, bash away!
  • I was gonna say... put a block of wood on the floor and pound it with a big hammer. Also, the body is in great shape... where's all the rust??? Looks really clean to me.
  • deepsdeeps Band Wagon
    Looks good - and I want to ditto the annoyance of the auto seat belts in later models. I also agree about swapping the floor out solid.
  • I wouldn't recommend pounding on your floorpan if it's covered in rust. If that's the case, it's already weak.
  • my car does a weird idle to. if im going like 35 and coasting to a stop it will bog down. i mean WAY WAY down to where the needle is actually resting on that little peg inside the cluster but still runs, it does that for about 4 seconds that rev's itself back up. these things just have a mind of there own. lol
  • By the way, I still have a couple of vw's. Note the baja in the garage, and the bus on the side. But, the bus is for sale.
  • ganjar420ganjar420 Band Wagon
    I almost almost bought that car lol. Floorboards are nothing, even rusty ones. If you know where to get some scrap sheet metal for a good price, it's easy to replace.

    I got lucky, I own an 86 and it's floorboards and undercarrage seem rust free, cant say so much about axles and drive shaft.
  • unlimited02unlimited02 Senior Wagonist
    well i think its a good pick up... b/c who looks under the car anyways...
  • good deal, do what judebert said imo :D
  • leWolfleWolf Senior Wagonist
    good deal, do what judebert said imo :D

    I agree with peter pan and judebert :)
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