'90 wagon Auto to Manual

Hi. I've got a '90 wagon with a D16A6 with the stock Auto trans.

I got a D16A6 manual trans and a shifter linkage set from a CRX. Will this shifter linkage set work, or will I have to get a set from a wagon?

Thanks in advance

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  • JDMshuttleJDMshuttle Senior Wagonist
    it should work if im right but do it right get a wagon 1
  • shenrieshenrie Council Member
    JDMshuttle wrote:
    it should work if im right but do it right get a wagon 1

    What he said. That conversion is a lot of work. I did a writeup for the DA teggys. Give it a read and decide if its somethign you wanna tackle. Some things will be different with a EF, but it will give you the jist of it. Click here: http://www.g2ic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40496&highlight=shenrie+auto+manual
  • SloS13SloS13 Band Wagon
    I'm quite familiar with what's involved but thanks for the link.

    I basically just want to know if anybody knows if the linkage length is the same. I know that a CRX and Sedan are the same length but there are no wagons around for me to compare against. As far as "doing it right" if the linkage lengths are the same, there would be no reason to procure linkages from a wagon.
  • JDMshuttleJDMshuttle Senior Wagonist
    IM NOT SAYING YOU WILL DO A BAD JOB I JUST LIKE TO USE WHAT COMES WITH THE CAR TELL US HOW IT WORKS OUT
  • SloS13SloS13 Band Wagon
    Will do. All I was saying is if they are the same part, they are the same part.

    Guess I'll know when I start tearing stuff apart. Not looking forward to the pedal assy install. The rest is cake. Going to install a half-size rad and probably a 14b turbo also.
  • JDMshuttleJDMshuttle Senior Wagonist
    nice if you look read my quote some peolple dont like me but i really dont give a fuck
    "SETTING TRENDS OTHERS DARE TO FOLLOW"
  • SiWagonSiWagon Council Member
    :? NO! :( CRX linkage won't fit the Wagon.If needed you can lenghten or shorten the linkage.It's just a steel tube.Cut.insert rod or tube & weld. :D
  • sic944tsic944t Wagonist
    ok guys one thing is certain im in the middle of this cauise my car was auto and im putting in a b18 i know teg pedals dont fit hahahahahha ... trust me
    well i need to hot wire the clutch start switch and what about the auto nuetrel safety my friende did a crx swap but he took the entire wiring harness from a manual so he did a ground up conversion
  • akiraboyakiraboy HondaCivicWagon.com Founder
    alright EZ on the ass chewing

    I thought the linkage was the same length, when I sourced my parts I got them directly from a wagon so I didn't think twice about them but I am almost certain they are the same length. I want to say I compared it to a rex or hatch once I got it out. Either way when you get the automatic parts out there will have to be some floor modifications made regardless...

    btw, nice write-up shenrie, thx for sharin that.
  • shenrieshenrie Council Member
    akiraboy wrote:

    btw, nice write-up shenrie, thx for sharin that.

    Aint no thang. Well mabie, considering I cant type to save my life :wink:
  • duckie8310duckie8310 Senior Wagonist
    ditto. very nice write-up. that will help tremendously later on. hopefully, if the price is right and we can find a good donor, my dad and i will tackle this project. a nice little father-son thing for us. i well defiantely be using that for some guidelines.
  • sic944tsic944t Wagonist
    ok anyone please help
    what wiring mods if any do i need to make the auto harness work i have a manual comp. of course im gonna go with a obd0 teg ls but i have a crx Si one too ?????

    so neutral safety and clutch push start thats what i wanna know any inight i read shenrie write up but im in the dark still
  • SiWagonSiWagon Council Member
    Akiraboy:I thought the linkage was the same length, when I sourced my parts I got them directly from a wagon so I didn't think twice about them but I am almost certain they are the same length.

    They are different.I compared them & the part #'s are not the same.
    Little more advanced thinking:By swapping around the for e.g. the CRX & wagon Linkages you can change the angle of the shifter to be closer or farther from you.If you're going to do this check for shifter clearances(like punching the radio shifting into 3rd.).
    BEWARE:By changing the upper linkage(Torque tube) it'll change the location of the shifter & screws up the location of the center console.
    Akiraboy:when you get the automatic parts out there will have to be some floor modifications made regardless...

    You'll need togo to the Junkyard to cut out the section that the shifter/boot is located.You may need to cut far enough out to get the section that covers the old Automatic hole.Any Civic will do 88-91(usdm).Lucky if you find the same colour Civic and the shifter has been removed(so u don't need to do it).Bring a hacksaw,chisel,drift pin punch(to punch out roll pin in shift linkage),hammer & marker.Cuts pretty easy.
    TIP:Get Poprivets(lots),silcone,spray paint(closest match to your Wgn color,but not necessary) & a can of spray Under coating.Good time to get poly bushings & short shifter(less than $ 20 from Ebay(aluminun too.)Good time to read my Trans TIPS @:
    viewtopic.php?f=7&t=103
    sic944t:so neutral safety and clutch push start thats what i wanna know any inight i read shenrie write up but im in the dark still
    When you find the wires(probably blk/wht ) connected to your Neutral Safety Switch .Just unplug them from the switch &connect them together.
    Clutch push start switch is not needed.Just remember to b in neutral or push the clutch in otherwise you're Wgn will jump.'88 HB did not have this switch.If you want this switch.It's back to the Junkyard.To get the relay & wiring.Let me know if this is what you want.It's a bit more involved.Slammed @ work .Got to go! :x
  • xsellxoutxxsellxoutx Band Wagon
    what awd auto to manual retaining awd....anybody tried this?
  • sic944tsic944t Wagonist
    siwagon
    you are the fucking man !!!!

    hahah i want this to work and work right the first time and you have just made my life a little simpler !!!! thank you very much
  • mikefinlymikefinly Band Wagon
    siwagon.

    You are great! i was really having a hard time dealing with this problem and since i dont have any money, I was so reluctant in going to a mechanic. Thanks for making me save some dollars. I will work on it immediately. :)
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