The Twenty Minute Muffler

Okay, it took 25 but I was taking photos... It should take you less time after reading this.

My muffler was shot so I went to the local Advance Auto Parts and ordered a new Walker muffler for $99 and a seal for $6.

Tools used- 12mm ratchet

First: take off the old muffler by removing the 12mm spring bolts and rubber isolators.
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Then, take a few seconds to compare the old and the new.
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Take the rubbers off the old, inspect and put them on the new.
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Put the new seal on the the exhaust system, you may have to clean some of the old off, mine came off pretty clean with the muffler.
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Raise the new muffler in place and hang it up there with the rubbers.
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Put some anit-seize on your bolts in case you have to do it again. The muffler did come with a lifetime warranty but they're probably betting on the lifetime of the car.
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Now the hard part, the spring bolts need some pressure to get started. I had to push pretty hard on the back of the ratchet while starting them. Make sure you do it gently and don't cross thread them.
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Now give it a good shake and see if you have any clearance problems.
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Start it up and make sure you have no leaks and admire your handywork.
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This was all done in the driveway. I didn't even have to get my jack or jackstands out for this one.

Comments

  • why did it take you so long!? lol jk
  • why did it take you so long!? lol jk

    I didn't mention the fact that I'm not a big fan of Advance Auto and did leave out the fact I ordered it on Sunday and it was supposed to be in Monday morning. Needless to say it didn't come in until Tuesday with some lame excuse from the counter guy who asked me twice if it was an accord wagon when I ordered it.
  • White&NerdyWhite&Nerdy Senior Wagonist
    Nice! I'll have to add additional info for the cat-to-muffler pipe, which I'm about to replace along with the muffler itself. Good to see it's as simple as it looks.

    My local Advance Auto can NOT get me a driver's side axle for my car. Twice they ordered what they thought was the right part, and it's over a foot longer than what I pulled out of the car. They were both for a FWD - RT4WD has an intermediate shaft. So I'm still running my old axle on that side. Fortunately it's in fine shape - it was the passenger side axle that fell to pieces when I removed it. :lol: And they did get the correct replacement for that side.
  • I saw your post about ordering the bosal parts. I found a bosal muffler locally but they wanted $135 for it.

    I figure I'm going to keep the section that goes into the muffler around for a while. If I run into a hatch or crx in the junkyard that has one of the fancy dual outlet SI mufflers I'll have take some measurements and maybe buy one and break out the mig welder. I really like the dual outlet look and I actually swapped out my DX hatch with one back in the early 90's.

    I didn't really have time to gamble on ordering one and trying to make it fit the wagon, couldn't afford the downtime.

    And something else, in the photos it looks like the muffler is already rusty, it's not thats just flash from where it was welded together. If you look at my cardboard in the photos you can see it started raining on me and I didn't take the time to wipe it clean.
  • wagodizzlewagodizzle Council Member and EDM expert
    $99 is a bit much IMO for a stock box (i can pick them up here for $6 at the junkyard... rust free, etc..)

    i got my Borla muffler for $80. then just needed to weld on 2 90 degree elbows and done.

    still looks good though man. good job ;)
  • I wasn't really happy about paying the $99, and a little surprised by the $6 too.

    Around here they salt the roads and rust is a big issue. The car I have came from Oregon about three years ago and it's pretty clean as far as rust goes but one of the first things to go is the exhaust system. You can see what three years of salt can do to a muffler in that second photo.

    The few wagons that I've found in salvage yards around here seem to always have the rocker pannels and quarters rusted clear through.
  • White&NerdyWhite&Nerdy Senior Wagonist
    Dizzle can get them rust-free because he lives far south of the rust belt! No salt eating these cars out from under him...

    The Bosal muffler alone cost $68 from Rock Auto. So yeah, $135 was a total ripoff. :( I paid around $180, shipped, for the muffler, pipe, and gaskets.

    I had to assure my gf that no, really, my brand spanking new exhaust ISN'T already rusting...! :lol: I hope to put it on this weekend. I may hijack your thread even further and show off the full cat-back installation. Then it can get stickied as a how-to. :twisted: Unlike you, I'll have to jack up the car to unbolt the pipe at the cat.
  • I used to live in PA (next to a ski resort) and bought a brand spankin new car in '92 right when the '93s were being delivered. Had to fix a hole in the exhaust two years later around the end of 94. The sad part was it was in storage about a year of that time while I was out of the country.

    Salt sucks...
  • WagicWagic Wagonist
    Is the Bosal the best replacement? Do you have a pic of the Bosal installed. Does it have dual tips?

    That Walker looks OK but it seems the oxidation process has begun before installation.
  • White&NerdyWhite&Nerdy Senior Wagonist
    The Bosal does have dual tips. Not a pic of the exhaust specifically, but:

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    You can kinda see the nice shiny muffler. :)
  • fettcolsfettcols Wagonist
    Wagic wrote:
    That Walker looks OK but it seems the oxidation process has begun before installation.


    Those spots are heat flash from the welds. I didn't bother cleaning it up first.
  • White&NerdyWhite&Nerdy Senior Wagonist
    Oh yeah, the Bosal exhaust had the same thing going. I didn't bother cleaning it either. But yeah, it isn't rust.
  • WagicWagic Wagonist
    Thanks for the pics and the heat flash explanation.

    Will a dual tipped muffler from a 4wd swap into a 2wd?
  • wagodizzlewagodizzle Council Member and EDM expert
    Wagic wrote:

    Will a dual tipped muffler from a 4wd swap into a 2wd?

    yes
  • skinnyskinny Senior Wagonist
    I know its a kinda older thread but i have some questions

    did it come as a whole set up as pictured? tail pipe, imput pipes, and hangers?

    Does it matter if its for a 2wd or a 4?

    It looks bigger then the stock, does this affect the sound? hope its lower?

    And last but not least, did you drill the drainage hole?
  • wagodizzlewagodizzle Council Member and EDM expert
    i think i can answer thos Q's...

    you buy that muffler as a complete unit: tailpipe, muffler box, hanger extensions, etc.
    does not matter if its 2WD or 4WD
    piping is stock size. will not affect sound.

    just drill a small drainage hole if you need, but it will make a very small hissing sound
  • WagicWagic Wagonist
    wagodizzle wrote:
    just drill a small drainage hole if you need, but it will make a very small hissing sound
    As a new member I will now show my ignorance, but I have to ask: Drill a hole? In the exhaust pipe or muffler? Why?
  • Wagic wrote:
    wagodizzle wrote:
    just drill a small drainage hole if you need, but it will make a very small hissing sound
    As a new member I will now show my ignorance, but I have to ask: Drill a hole? In the exhaust pipe or muffler? Why?
    Muffler, water will condense in there and rust it out. :evil:
  • Yeah I think Heraldhamster told me something about wagon exhausts really don't heat up enough to burn off all the condensation, because of the length. My wagon is constantly spitting out condensation and my exhaust has the rust holes to prove it.
  • fettcolsfettcols Wagonist
    The walker already had the hole drilled into it.
  • WagicWagic Wagonist
    evol911 wrote:
    Yeah I think Heraldhamster told me something about wagon exhausts really don't heat up enough to burn off all the condensation, because of the length. My wagon is constantly spitting out condensation and my exhaust has the rust holes to prove it.
    Makes sense...I guess. It does seem counter-intuitive since an exhaust system is designed to be air tight. And drilling a hole may actually promote rust. How much fluid collects in there? Guess that's what happens when the tip of the tailpipe is higher (much higher in this case) than the muffler.

    So do you drill a hole in the bottom or the side?
  • WagicWagic Wagonist
    fettcols wrote:
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    Nevermind, fettcols picture is worth a thousand words
  • White&NerdyWhite&Nerdy Senior Wagonist
    I went to www.rockauto.com . I bought the muffler and tailpipe (from the cat to the muffler) separately - meaning you can buy just the muffler if that's all you need. Plus gaskets. Reused my old hangers, and replaced the bolts with some I had kicking around. The Bosal muffler also comes with the drain holes predrilled. In other threads on the forum, I've read about someone drilling a drain hole in a muffler they'd had a while that didn't originally have one, and water just poured out of there for a while. It's such a small hole you really won't get anything significant in there.
  • skinnyskinny Senior Wagonist
    I dont have anything thats why I asked. Looks like the stock one rusted off and the previous owner just took it all off.
  • j-wagj-wag Band Wagon
    nice
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