NOx?

i just had a state inspection and i failed! :evil:

my NOx was 1767 and the standard is 1438 after i changed the oil, sparkplugs and O2 sensor

before i changed all of those i got a NOx of 1154 but i failed on my HC and CO

how come it went up? how would i pass this one? any help guys?

Comments

  • SiWagonSiWagon Council Member
    Did you add a Cam Gear ,when u swapped heads?
    :idea: Try retarding the timing & put in a can of that "Pass your Smog"(Not the real name) stuff from the parts place.This should help drop the NOX.

    Lots of Luck. :)
  • davensdavens familEE
    Nitrogen Oxides in vehicles are caused by excessive combustion chamber temperatures. Some of the common causes of high NOx emissions are problems with the vehicle's Exhaust Gas Recirculation System (EGR)[Only HFs have an EGR], improper ignition timing, lean air/fuel mixture and malfunctions in systems that control engine temperature, such as the thermostat and cooling fan, and vacuum leaks.
    Typical high NOx culprits (clipped):
    Misfire condition
    Failed oxygen sensor
    Leak in exhaust tubing upstream of converter
    Excessive carbon deposits in combustion chamber
    Improper spark advance
    Overly lean air-fuel mixture
    Corroded or damaged engine sensor electrical connections
    A failed catalytic conv. could contribute to high NOx readings but the cat failure itself is most likely caused by some other problems, like improper air-to-fuel mixture.

    Given your previous post about your o2 sensor, I'm putting my money on a lean air-to-fuel mixture. If you're running lean, you're going to be running hot.
    There are plenty of possibile culprits that could choke the fuel system...clogged fuel filter or injectors.
    First cheap steps: verify good fuel pressure, new fuel filter and a couple doses of intank fuel injector cleaner.

    A slightly ghetto way to knock down combustion chamber temps is trying spark plugs one heat range cooler.(look it up)
    But I think that there is something wrong in the stock setup that when identified and corrected, will let you pass NOx.

    [edit]I just noticed you did a y7 head swap? Any idea what compression ratio you're running now? I'm guessing more than 10:1. Higher compression ratios will increase combustion chamber temps...Stock crappy DPFI trying to feed fuel to a higher compression ratio might be the problem. More fuel than stock or higher octane might be called for.
  • marc-111marc-111 Wagonist
    just passed NOx today!!!!

    what i did was changed the airfilter and cleaned the muffler by sticking a hose with water flowing through it and rev the living s#it out of it! :D it was so dirty as in black :lol:
  • akiraboyakiraboy HondaCivicWagon.com Founder
    hmm never heard bout the garden hose thing before :shock:
  • marc-111marc-111 Wagonist
    hehehe! tried and tested on our diesel vans before to pass
  • davensdavens familEE
    akiraboy wrote:
    hmm never heard bout the garden hose thing before :shock:


    "Yeah, my car failed emissions...so I washed it and it passed."

    ...I don't know if I would be admitting that :wink:
  • akiraboyakiraboy HondaCivicWagon.com Founder
    would this work with a pressure washer too or is this not a good idea
  • MrKISSMrKISS Band Wagon
    I got an emissions waiver on NOx in NJ on my 86 2wd Wagon [104K miles.] The waiver is issued if the vehicle is over a certain age and the owner has spent a certain amount trying to rectify emissions probs. I think my prob is the cat converter...everything else was fixed.

    But it's only good once; ie, if you sell the car, the new owner cant get another waiver if it fails again. If the vehicle is sold, it still must be inspected for safety items.

    Be alert for Honda Dealer personnel and DMV workers not being informed on this.

    What is the deal w/ running a garden hose into the car? It's run into the muffler? Details?
  • Jeeze, I'm so glad we don't have inspections here. They sound like an annoying hassle.
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