HID noob. Enter please. :)

Revmaynard · August 2008

Ok, so, never looked into HID's before. But I am interested in hearing about them. Pro's and Con's guys! Thanks. Also, what is the install like? It's not just put your bulbs in and roll, right?

Kahuna · August 2008

Depends on who you ask.. Some people get all pissy and say you need to convert your headligts for the bulbs blah blah blah..

Most kits are plug and play.

I have 12k HIDs and they are a lot better than stock lights.. I have had people be like oh you can't see as well because your lights are not made for them.. blah blah..

Revmaynard · August 2008

So, I can just get bulbs/kit and it WILL work. Someone was talking about having to wire into your battery and it just didn't seem that was the case with most people I know who have them.

evol911 · August 2008

Revmaynard wrote:

So, I can just get bulbs/kit and it WILL work. Someone was talking about having to wire into your battery and it just didn't seem that was the case with most people I know who have them.

Yeah I was under the impression that you cut your light harness and wire it to the ballast box then that goes to bulbs that fit into your lights like the stock 9006's. I want to do this too but not if I can't make look close to stock.

Kahuna · August 2008

Nah, most you just plug your stock wiring into the ballast wiring, then the wires from the ballast into the bulb.

evol911 · August 2008

Kahuna wrote:

Nah, most you just plug your stock wiring into the ballast wiring, then the wires from the ballast into the bulb.

Wait, what?? :shock:

Eagle Beagle · August 2008

must be white here in the netherlands, so anything more than 5k could get you a penalty ...

ofcourse the reflector isnt meant for hid/xenon, but who cares, its nice
to let your beam go everywhere

: )

Kahuna · August 2008

evol911 wrote:

Kahuna wrote:

Nah, most you just plug your stock wiring into the ballast wiring, then the wires from the ballast into the bulb.

Wait, what?? :shock:

They are plkug and play.....

Diagram without drawing:

Stock wiring
----plug----
HID Ballast Wiring
----plug

----HID Ballast----
----plug

HID Bulb wiring
----plug

HID Bulb

That hard?

949 · August 2008

i can get you a kit and its all plug and play. only 120.00 shipped. ( i assume your in the u.s.)

evol911 · August 2008

Kahuna wrote:

evol911 wrote:

Kahuna wrote:

Nah, most you just plug your stock wiring into the ballast wiring, then the wires from the ballast into the bulb.

Wait, what?? :shock:

They are plkug and play.....

Diagram without drawing:

Stock wiring
----plug----
HID Ballast Wiring
----plug
----HID Ballast----
----plug
HID Bulb wiring
----plug
HID Bulb

That hard?

Ah :idea:

Thanks :oops:

Old Skool · August 2008

Most oem systems are 4300K most aftermarket kits start at 6K. I have 6k in all of my cars.. the higher the number the more blue to purple it goes.. hence less output. I suggest running a relay harness pack. the aftermarket HID are only 35watts but the initial turn on will draw upwards of 25 amps. This is not good for the oem system. any more questions post it up.. I've been retrofitting HIDS since '98

evol911 · August 2008

Old Skool wrote:

Most oem systems are 4300K most aftermarket kits start at 6K. I have 6k in all of my cars.. the higher the number the more blue to purple it goes.. hence less output. I suggest running a relay harness pack. the aftermarket HID are only 35watts but the initial turn on will draw upwards of 25 amps. This is not good for the oem system. any more questions post it up.. I've been retrofitting HIDS since '98

Can you recommend a good HID kit for the price? And a relay harness pack?

Old Skool · September 2008

This is my buddies shop here in Richmond. http://www.hidoutlet.ca/ He has a bunch of different kits available, I usually go with the JS system and the relay pack.. There are lots of brands on the market, you just need to fins one thats in your price range

rti intrac · January 2009

Old Skool wrote:

Most oem systems are 4300K most aftermarket kits start at 6K. I have 6k in all of my cars.. the higher the number the more blue to purple it goes.. hence less output. I suggest running a relay harness pack. the aftermarket HID are only 35watts but the initial turn on will draw upwards of 25 amps. This is not good for the oem system. any more questions post it up.. I've been retrofitting HIDS since '98

Arent the standard headlights relay switched anyway?
last time I looked at honda relays they were 30A switching?

Old Skool · January 2009

most newer vehicles are relay controlled... I've always run with aftermarket relays on the old cars (pre '80's

)

lucskywalker · January 2009

i install these kit's on a daily basis as well. i have mixed feeling's about them.
the first is yes it does matter how the housing is made to reflect the light the right way, some work others dont (oem)
the aftermarket (projector style) housing, they totaly suck!! the kits can be a pain in the ass cause people always complain, "i cant see!" so yea the housing matters. a satilite dish style reflector is the best for the setup. if your cars housing replicates a dish pretty well your in luck.
second you need a relay lit for the daytime running system's also the automatic turn on system's. we see some fuse issues sometimes, and then compensate.
third i have yet to see a kit (aftermarket) that is worth a damn, they just dont last! where i work we have gone thru at least 10 different company's and it seems to be all the same! they do however come with a 6 month warranty, but how ever most ballast's cant live past a year, and as little as a month (relay kit or not) i can say if you can find a built in japan digital kit they seem to live longer. and note its not the bulb, its the ballasts the fail.
and for the people who install their own kits, 9006/9005 honda plugs are real tight, if you think the kit is not working, first check the plug push it together as hard as possible. mount the ballast away from the heat! and keep it from excessive vibrations. water is not generally an issue, we have a kit for each color bulb inside a fish tank, (bulb and ballast) and have worked fine for over a year,(sale's pitch), kinda doesnt make sence to tell ya the truth

the problems with the kits might just have something to do with the fluctuation of a cars charging system.
i pesonally get oem hid's from junk yards and convert them to fit. i have a kit from a lexus thats over 5years old and still work, but again thats oem. 8)
so good luck, buy 2 sets i say, cause if one goes out you have one to put in right away! nothing like a silverstar bulb in 1 side and hid in the other

evol911 · January 2009

But something good about HIDs is you can get them for like $50 + free shipping on EBAY and it would cost you around $40-45 for some good bulbs from your local parts store. So the price is almost there, yes HIDs are more prone to failure but they make the car look crisp and are roughly the same price of a good set of Xenon bulbs.

Revmaynard · January 2009

I eventually got Silverstars when one bulb went out. I like 'em. Plus they're OEM plug and all that jazz and don't fail as often. Haha.

efcivicturbo · February 2009

try www.tspny.com they have a sale on HID kits.. it cost me $80.67 for a direct plug and play HID kit, shipped to my door. I got them 2 days later, they work great, i've oreder 3 sets so far.

they offer from 6-12k... 12k having the most color but less light.. i went for the 8k so they are bright, but still have a tint of blue. they took 20minutes to install.

hope this helps

SiWagon · February 2009

Do they come in pairs?The website was a bit vague and a bit had to surf :?

efcivicturbo · February 2009

yeah the kits include 2 bulds all the wires ballast and hardware for mounting the ballasts.. everything included.. oh yeah they also come with a 1 year warranty...

they are direct plug and play kits.. remove your bulb from your headlight, install new hid bulb, plug the factory harness into the new hid harness.. very simple install..

sobe_death · February 2009

I have used the ones from www.ddmtuning.com. Pretty cheap, digital ballasts, and a good warranty on them as well. Plus they offer 4300k, and one of the only ones to offer an H1 capsule for the high beams in my S2k

L5th · February 2009

Eagle Beagle wrote:

must be white here in the netherlands, so anything more than 5k could get you a penalty ...

ofcourse the reflector isnt meant for hid/xenon, but who cares, its nice
to let your beam go everywhere

: )

lol i love beagles response, and nobody really acknowledged it..

anyways

the pro's you get a cool bright light out the headlights, which at night can make a good upgrade to how your car looks at night. and i love the start up of hid's how it starts dim then brightens up as they warm up. i think thats awsome.. lol

the con's is that they are NOT meant for your car. hid's really need a projector to set the beam right... the headlights we have on our old wagons is meant so when the light hits it, its splits/spreads it a certain way and was really only meant for the oem light bulbs. with a stronger light it kinda sprays erractically and you MIGHT end up blinding someone trying to drive by you... [could potentialy be dangerous].

BUT with all these lifted trucks i seem to drive in front of a lot, with their headlights pointing straight at my rearview mirror i could careless.... lol

Haydz · February 2009

Bright lights behind you is OK as you can just flip the toggle on the rear view mirror but in front is just plain dangerous.

Revmaynard · February 2009

Yea, I honestly reccommend the Silverstars to anyone wanting an upgrade. I need to compare the headlights on my wagons to just show the difference for y'all.

Revmaynard · February 2009

OEM

Silverstar

White&Nerdy · February 2009

Wow. That's a pretty impressive difference. You may have just sold me.

L5th · March 2009

Haydz wrote:

Bright lights behind you is OK as you can just flip the toggle on the rear view mirror but in front is just plain dangerous.

that is very true... for the LONGEST time i never knew what that little flip was on my rear view.. LOL then i figured it out and it IS VERY USEFUL

5thgen4dr · March 2009

Maynerd, don't knock it till you try it. your silverstar is nothing compared to a 6000k hid. I use 6000k in all my cars.

if we were to put our cars side by side and compare the color/brightness/length of beam. your silverstar would pale in comparison.

Not giving you ish cause I used to use silverstar platinums but man, for $70 and HID kit is the way to go. the silverstarts are $20 a pop right?

Check out my HIDSs:

skinny · March 2009

I didnt see it cause I skimmed through. But it is illegal to put hid's in a car that didn't come from the factory with them. If I remember right kid at the street races a few years ago got a 250 fine for it. If your willing to hack your stock headlights and retro fit them and aim them right I would say go for it. If you want them cause HID's are just cool dont waste your time and money and just get silverstars.

5thgen4dr · March 2009

I've never had any problem with the brightness or color pertaining to cops. All the HID lights will shine WHITE when you put a black sheet of paper in front of it. no matter what the temp(ie 4300k 6000k 12000k)

HID noob. Enter please. :)

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