Can someone give me clarity on brake upgrades?
emofied
Band Wagon
The brake upgrade sticky turned into a k series swap discussion, and I still don't think I'm totally clear on the best way to upgrade brakes. Here's what I think I understand so far for my '90 wagon:
Front:
-crossed drilled EX rotors (bigger?)
-stainless brake lines
-upgraded fluid
-Hawk (or equivalent) pads
Rear:
-stainless lines?
-better shoes
-?
Master cylinder:
-15/16
So.. Do I understand correctly that there are larger front rotors available that are direct replacements in leu of wagon rotors (EX sedan)?
Is there anything more I should do for my rear drums?
And finally, what's the 15/16 master cyl that I should be able to get ahold of easiest? 89 accord lxi, or ???
Thanks!
Front:
-crossed drilled EX rotors (bigger?)
-stainless brake lines
-upgraded fluid
-Hawk (or equivalent) pads
Rear:
-stainless lines?
-better shoes
-?
Master cylinder:
-15/16
So.. Do I understand correctly that there are larger front rotors available that are direct replacements in leu of wagon rotors (EX sedan)?
Is there anything more I should do for my rear drums?
And finally, what's the 15/16 master cyl that I should be able to get ahold of easiest? 89 accord lxi, or ???
Thanks!
Comments
For the rear you can buy/make rear disc swaps but I'm not exactly sure how. I wouldn't really say it is worth the effort to upgrade rears except for maybe brake shoes.
The 90-91 EX master cylinder is bolt in and an excellent upgrade. If you go with rear disc brakes you will want to switch the proportioning valve.
Check out thatdoodle's stuff in the sponsors area. That would be the easiest way to get the largest brakes possible.
Not a want, but a must. Our brakes didnt work at all with the incorrect prop valve. Other than that, eldonciv gave great info.
Eldon, any idea what make the EX spindals handle better? Thats the first Ive heard of that before. Now you got me curious.
Not sure what you mean exactly.
I believe it revolves around the fact that the DA spindles are slightly taller (iirc) and this changes the camber more aggressively during compression. Again, only internet hearsay but it does seem to be a widely agreed fact that the DA spindles are of a slightly different geometry than the civic spindles and that should lead to a handling change of some sort. I honestly never compared the two spindles in question.
So you're saying that you have extended studs and the nuts bottom out before the spare wheel is tightened on the hub but that you need the extended studs because you have wheel spacers so your wheels clear your current calipers? You could try open ended nuts. The ex/da spindles will move the caliper away from the hub maybe .5" (just a guess).
:? You're confusing us all.The only reason the spare won't fit is with the EX big brake set-up is that you'll need to go to a 14''+ wheel.The longer studs & ring are NOT the prob.That's why the CRX & EX came w/14'' wheels.
:arrow: Don't forget to upgrade the spare to a 14''+ too.
His prob has nothing to do with any custom work. :?
If you goto the EX set-up the caliper will be further away so your spacer shouldn't hit.Yes the mod will work on both the 2&4 wd.
EX's were only 90-91.
thanks in advance................wagon 4ever..........
Also the Hawk Hp+ Pads are really good on the track but really really dusty, mine were also quite noisy when braking lightly until the were bedded in properly
how bout the just the Hawk HP pads not the +'s??
I have heard that Hawk can be harch on discs but ive dont a couple trackdays with the HP+ and havnt noticed much
mid 90's meaning 95?? clarify please, the year does matter.