Wagon in the shop

For as long as I have owned my wagon (3 years in June), the clutch pedal has always had a slight squeak.

Wek, this weekend, that squeak turned into a creak... loud enough to have me worried. Also, the clutch was not engaging or disengaging properly at times.

Fearing the worst, I dropped the car off at the tranny shop I trust. Over the years they rebuilt 4 trannies for me... 2 for my Dodge Caravan and 2 for my Ford Aerostar, which is why I'm NEVER buying a "Detroit" car again.

Well, the news is in... the clutch cable is seizing (the reason why the clutch was acting funny) and, in turn, this wore out the bushings on the clutch pedal (the reason for the creaking).

The car is going to be out of commission for at least 3 days and I'm looking at between $300 and $500 to get it up to snuff.

Oh, well, the car is 18 years old and parts wear out. I'm just glad I got some warning and was able to get the car to a shop under its own power and that nothing broke while I was driving, thereby potentially increasing the damage and the cost.

In closing, the long range forecast is for sun so exclusively riding my brand new Yamaha C3 scooter for the next few days will be fun... always look on the bright side of life !!!

P.S. I just realized I paid more for my scooter (50cc, single passenger) than I did for my wagon (1.5L, 5 passenger)... That's funny !!!

Cheers !!

Comments

  • ABBEY1227ABBEY1227 Wagonist
    Lalu,
    that is such a typical story for a Honda. Technically you were given a 3 year warning that the clutch had a problem :) And it's hard to hold it against a car when it's a wear and tear type item as long as it's not a repeated thing,right?

    I've had a few times when a Honda was running on 3 cylinders or the distibutor's rotor was almost completely gone, but it's been rare that i've EVER been completely stranded by a Honda.
  • 949949 Senior Wagonist
    yeah i had something similiar. i learned a lot when mine went out.
    300 is fine. 500 is pretty pricey unless they are actually opening up the gears and doing work on it.

    got my tranny out now and im planning on just doing preventitive maintenance. gonna change out the throwout bearing since i got it off and out.

    60.00 for an oem t.o. bearing.
    labor free. (im doing it)
    learning how things work on my car, PRICELESS.
  • HaydzHaydz Moderator
    Make sure you check that whole clutch pedal and lever, sometimes they can develop cracks in the welds and thats what causes the damage and difficulty in the first place.
  • farfetchedfarfetched Wagonist
    lalunette wrote:
    For as long as I have owned my wagon (3 years in June), the clutch pedal has always had a slight squeak.

    Wek, this weekend, that squeak turned into a creak... loud enough to have me worried. Also, the clutch was not engaging or disengaging properly at times.

    Fearing the worst, I dropped the car off at the tranny shop I trust. Over the years they rebuilt 4 trannies for me... 2 for my Dodge Caravan and 2 for my Ford Aerostar, which is why I'm NEVER buying a "Detroit" car again.

    Well, the news is in... the clutch cable is seizing (the reason why the clutch was acting funny) and, in turn, this wore out the bushings on the clutch pedal (the reason for the creaking).

    The car is going to be out of commission for at least 3 days and I'm looking at between $300 and $500 to get it up to snuff.

    Oh, well, the car is 18 years old and parts wear out. I'm just glad I got some warning and was able to get the car to a shop under its own power and that nothing broke while I was driving, thereby potentially increasing the damage and the cost.

    In closing, the long range forecast is for sun so exclusively riding my brand new Yamaha C3 scooter for the next few days will be fun... always look on the bright side of life !!!

    P.S. I just realized I paid more for my scooter (50cc, single passenger) than I did for my wagon (1.5L, 5 passenger)... That's funny !!!

    Cheers !!
    I am sorry, the clutch cable and pedal bushings are Easy Peezy lemon Squeezy Job...
    Why shop has to do it?
    Cheers!
  • farfetched wrote:

    I am sorry, the clutch cable and pedal bushings are Easy Peezy lemon Squeezy Job...

    Why shop has to do it?

    Cheers!

    Because...

    1. I have no experience doing this kind of work.
    2. I don't have my own garage to work in.
    3. I work full-time during the day and reno'ing a house evenings and weekends so I can get the house on the market in June.
    4. I have the cash available in my "car repair" account.

    Cheers !!
  • wagodizzlewagodizzle Council Member and EDM expert
    you dont need experience working on a Honda, lolz 8)
  • shenrieshenrie Council Member
    Man, I wish I had a "car repair" account, lol.

    Hope its on the road soon and costs twords the lower end of the quote!
  • shenrie wrote:
    Man, I wish I had a "car repair" account, lol.

    Hope its on the road soon and costs twords the lower end of the quote!

    When you have an 18-year old car as a daily driver, you learn to put money away every month for unexpected repairs... like the one I'm currently experiencing.

    Cheers !!
  • shenrieshenrie Council Member
    lalunette wrote:
    When you have an 18-year old car as a daily driver, you learn to put money away every month for unexpected repairs... like the one I'm currently experiencing.

    Youd think with over 300k miles on my daily driver I would, but I dont ever. Call me stupid.
  • shenrie wrote:
    lalunette wrote:
    When you have an 18-year old car as a daily driver, you learn to put money away every month for unexpected repairs... like the one I'm currently experiencing.

    Youd think with over 300k miles on my daily driver I would, but I dont ever. Call me stupid.

    I used to be like you... and then got sick of dipping into credit when I could have easily accumulated the money beforehand...

    BTW, I also use this method for accumulating vacation money.
  • quartersquarters Council Member
    i replaced the entire clutch on my wagon when i bought it because it was slipping so badly. turned out to be the pedals. there was a crack in the metal box that the pedals mount to. the clutch was not engaging due to the flex in the pedal. biggest pain in the ass ever.

    my current clutch cable squeaks a little bit currently.
  • B18C5-EH2B18C5-EH2 Moderator
    Not everyone has the time, tools, garage space, etc. needed to do such work.

    Also an "easy" job for some people isn't for others. IMO I'd rather do an engine swap on a Civic than try and hang a door frame, because I hate and detest house work/repairs.

    Looks like Lalunette does the type of home repairs that I'd gladly pay someone to do, just as he gladly will pay someone to do his clutch job.

    The list goes on - do you all do your own plumbing? Home electrical work? PC repair? Television repair? I mean "simple" tasks to these professionals are daunting stuff for most of us, right?

    Lastly a clutch job might be easy for him if he tried, but some people pay for convenience.

    I look at it like he can probably make more money renovating a house than he would save by forgoing a job to do his own clutch.
  • shenrieshenrie Council Member
    lalunette wrote:

    I used to be like you... and then got sick of dipping into credit when I could have easily accumulated the money beforehand...

    BTW, I also use this method for accumulating vacation money.

    If I didnt have 5 cars registered and ready to go I probably would. But I generally have at least 3 running vehicles. So when one breaks, I have time to search for parts if I dont actaully have them allready in the garage and fix them at my convience. I ahve access to a shop with lifts, but after working in the car bussiness, I lost a lot of ambition to work on cars, but I just cant force myslef to pay somone to fix what I know I have the capibilities to do.

    Oh and B18C5-EH2, I believe that lalunette is a she, not a he, but Im with you on what Ill do myself, and what Ill pay for.
  • B18C5-EH2B18C5-EH2 Moderator
    I didn't see any prerequesite leg-humping to know that Lulanatte is a woman.

    Sorry, no harm intended.

    :)
  • wagodizzlewagodizzle Council Member and EDM expert
    hahaha lalunette is a dude....

    guy with the glasses

    390.jpg
  • B18C5-EH2B18C5-EH2 Moderator
    wagodizzle wrote:
    hahaha lalunette is a dude....

    guy with the glasses

    390.jpg

    Man she's hot!

    :)
  • shenrieshenrie Council Member
    Ha, Im an idiot. I was always under the impression lalunette was a female. Mabie its cause he is always so polite with his replies. I applogize lalunette. My bad. I know how it feels too, my name is a girl name so I have delt with it my entire life.

    Is there any girls on this site? I seriously though that was our one and only that frequented the site. I guess Im confused.
  • wagodizzlewagodizzle Council Member and EDM expert
    we used to have 89rtmama... then now slowgirl.... but they are hardly ever on :lol:
  • shenrie wrote:

    Oh and B18C5-EH2, I believe that lalunette is a she, not a he, but Im with you on what Ill do myself, and what Ill pay for.

    Oh, I'm most definitely a "he". :twisted:

    At least my ex-wife (with whom I fathered 3 children), my past girlfriends and my current wife, told me so. LOL

    No harm done !!!
  • B18C5-EH2 wrote:
    Looks like Lalunette does the type of home repairs that I'd gladly pay someone to do, just as he gladly will pay someone to do his clutch job.

    I used to build houses as a summer job when I was in university so there isn't anything I haven't tackled. I've done everything from foundation work to shingling. I can also do interior finish work.
    B18C5-EH2 wrote:
    I look at it like he can probably make more money renovating a house than he would save by forgoing a job to do his own clutch.

    I stand to clear about 90K if I get my asking price. However, the way things are in the Winnipeg real estate market, it could go to a bidding war and I could make much more. Knock on wood.

    Of course, the goal of this reno project is to apply the profits to a collective debt my brothers and I have (family cottage) so the cottage will be free and clear, and we might have $$ left over for a dock and boathouse.

    BTW, the transmission shop is having trouble finding the clutch pedal bushings they need to finish the job. The local supplier said the bushings are obsolete!!

    Thx to the forum I checked on MajesticHonda and they have them listed for $3.91 a piece. I phoned the shop back and told them I could find them and order them if they have trouble locating them through their channels.

    I LOVE THIS FORUM !!!
  • Well, the shop found the bushings, they have the clutch cable but they also need a clutch pedal.

    Aparently they have something they think will fit.

    I'll know more tomorrow.

    In the meantime, I'm going to fax them the pages from Majestic Honda showing all the parts they need and how much they would cost in the US.

    Cheers !!
  • Holy hannah Batman !!!

    Cost me $547 (with tax) but they replaced the clutch cable, installed a new clutch pedal and the appropriate bushings!

    My clutch pedal is now so sensitive it's like shifting in a new car. They also adjusted my stickshift so the stick now glides into each gear !!!

    I had noticed hesitation when up/down shifting and that is now gone! I guess the cable started seizing partially and would not engage/disengage the clutch properly, causing trouble with the transmission/motor interface.

    Best $547 I've spent on the car so far !!
  • wagodizzlewagodizzle Council Member and EDM expert
    $547 is $500 more then i would have spent. haha...

    my friends got his entire clutch replaced for $340 at a shop in town.... some how this still seems steep for a simple cable replacement. but maybe thats just me.
  • wagodizzle wrote:
    $547 is $500 more then i would have spent. haha...

    my friends got his entire clutch replaced for $340 at a shop in town.... some how this still seems steep for a simple cable replacement. but maybe thats just me.

    Well, it wasn't just a simple cable replacement since the clutch pedal was also damaged.

    Also, remember that parts and labour in Canada are always higher than in the "Land of the French and the Home of the Brave" where capitalism is king and you don't have socialized health care. :twisted:
  • wagodizzlewagodizzle Council Member and EDM expert
    land of the French...?? hahaha.

    with the CAD$ and the USA$ ratio, you might as well come here to have it fixed for next to nothing :lol:
  • wagodizzle wrote:
    land of the French...?? hahaha.

    WHAT ???

    Obviously a typo... I meant to write "free". LOL

    And yes, car repairs are cheaper in the US than in Canada and yet our currencies are almost at par. That's because Canadians are taxed at a much higher rate than Americans.
  • wagodizzlewagodizzle Council Member and EDM expert
    haha i figured it was a typo :P pretty funny stuff though eh
  • wagodizzle wrote:
    haha i figured it was a typo :P pretty funny stuff though eh

    It was either a typo or a Freudian slip... because I had just finished writing an email to my sergeant in my 18th century French Marines unit about an activity we have Saturday morning.
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