If you smell fuel and it won't start or even try to start when adding starter fluid then I don't think that's your problem. The next steps for me would be possibly trying a used (but known to work) distributor
agree. not a fuel problem. you need fuel, air, spark. you have air, it won't even hit on accelerants (fuel...) that leaves spark.
Here's a weird scenario I can't explain. I had an integra, did a compression test without disabling ignition, it never cranked again until i replaced coil.
the timing belt was just replaced along with the water pump, ann the other belts on the pully were fine, timing was set by eye, it took him about 30 minutes because he made sure it was right.
If it's backfiring while attempting to crank either:
A. The timing is off regardless if somone just did a belt
B. The distributor is bad
From the info given it sounds like either of these is the culprit.
The timing could be off is the mechanic didn't line up the timing marks according to factory specs.
Make sure the crank pulley WHITE mark lines up with the sight on the lower timing cover.
Then make sure that the cam gear has "UP" pointing up, and line up the two timing marks/hashes on both sides of the cam gear with the cylinder head deck surface. They won't be perfectly level or flat because the engine tilts forward, but you do want them to be level/fla with the cylinder head/deck surface.
Common errors for this engine when regular mechanics do this work are:
They line up the crank with one of the RED marks
They line up the cam gear in the 1.6L engine position where there is a lone timing mark towards the bottom of the cam gear with the hash mark on the plastic upper inner timing cover - this is very common, and also very WRONG.
You really, really need to check the timing again, and perhaps have someone else recheck it in case the guy who did it and rechecked it is wrong. It can happen man.
If the timing lines up exactly as I've laid it out then you should find a known good working distributor and swap it in, then see how it cranks/runs.
listen, if you dont get that parts car.. or if that cars dizzy is ef'd up too... i'll send you my spare, which was in perfect working order... for free, just you pay shipping (like $5) and see if it works. if it does, you can have it for $30... if it doesnt, just send it back.
i don't know if i want to have you questioning me or doubting me about paying you, ya know? so i'll try and find a used good working condition one around here.
thank you though man, if i can't find one around here, then i'll get to you and just buy it from you all together so we don't have a hastle of having to pay later if it works since mines never been replaced it probably needs to be anyways.
i'm curious, you're around my age arn't you? (i'm about to be 18 i posted some stuff in the off topic discussion section under the get to know me thing or whatever)
I said distributor because it was preexisting, otherwise it had to be a timing belt problem. I just turned 20 the other day. It really wasn't very exciting at all.
thing thing happened to me. she would start but then sputter and choke out. i changed the cap and rotor and she ran fine again. cap was $12 and the rotor was $9 at autozone.
not off the top off my head, i just went in there told them i had a 90 civic si (wagons arent listed). then said i needed a new distributer cap and rotor. you cant screw that up. i took off my distributer cap and i had a whole bunch of white dust.
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well my ecu isn't throwing any codes at all. :[ im depressed, I give up for now, until i figure out if i can get that parts car.
Let me modify: you need fuel, air, spark in the proper sequence. I'd pop the valve cover and upper belt cover off and positively eyeball timing.
A. The timing is off regardless if somone just did a belt
B. The distributor is bad
From the info given it sounds like either of these is the culprit.
The timing could be off is the mechanic didn't line up the timing marks according to factory specs.
Make sure the crank pulley WHITE mark lines up with the sight on the lower timing cover.
Then make sure that the cam gear has "UP" pointing up, and line up the two timing marks/hashes on both sides of the cam gear with the cylinder head deck surface. They won't be perfectly level or flat because the engine tilts forward, but you do want them to be level/fla with the cylinder head/deck surface.
Common errors for this engine when regular mechanics do this work are:
They line up the crank with one of the RED marks
They line up the cam gear in the 1.6L engine position where there is a lone timing mark towards the bottom of the cam gear with the hash mark on the plastic upper inner timing cover - this is very common, and also very WRONG.
You really, really need to check the timing again, and perhaps have someone else recheck it in case the guy who did it and rechecked it is wrong. It can happen man.
If the timing lines up exactly as I've laid it out then you should find a known good working distributor and swap it in, then see how it cranks/runs.
listen, if you dont get that parts car.. or if that cars dizzy is ef'd up too... i'll send you my spare, which was in perfect working order... for free, just you pay shipping (like $5) and see if it works. if it does, you can have it for $30... if it doesnt, just send it back.
thank you though man, if i can't find one around here, then i'll get to you and just buy it from you all together so we don't have a hastle of having to pay later if it works since mines never been replaced it probably needs to be anyways.
kahuna, duckie, eldoncivic, astuto....so on
and yeah, im guessing it's the dizzy too, i just can't afford one right now, i can't even afford shipping, hah.
sucks. :roll:
if it's not the dizzy, whats my next step
link to rotor
http://www.autozone.com/N,16200035//sho ... ultSet.htm
link to cap
http://www.autozone.com/N,16200031//sho ... ultSet.htm
then ask for the cheapest one.
the MPFI and DPFI share the same caps and rotors.
when you go in to autozone, or advance or napa or whatever, they'll ask you first your cars year, then make, model.. and then the part you want.
i would go for a same year honda civic with the 1.5i sohc for your aplication.