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michaelhinkle1
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How fast does it crank (turn over), normal speed (as before the problem) or with a lot of effort?
CHEERS!
i said it doesn't turn over at all.....
it just makes sounds like it's going to backfire.
If you are getting fuel then it shouldn't be the main relay. Maybe your timing belt is off a few teeth. It could be a bad distributor but unlikely since you have spark. Your exhaust/cat could be clogged as well. If you are sure the timing belt is dead on, try disconnecting the exhaust before the cat and try to start it.
it will not crank... it sounds like it is going to but then it starts sounding like its going to backfire.
the car only has 103k miles, it can't really be anything major it's been well taken care of.
Another one for ya...
Did it crank OK before T-belt R+R?
I don't know what your mech is pulling here, but if it is not crancking or tries to do so, it could mean you have valvetrain issue... IMO...
P.S take it back to your mechanic and ask him above questions...
and no, it broke down on me before he changed the timing belt.
everything is exactly the same as before he changed and set it.
the fuel is only coming to the fuel injection top, the place with the weird hole that goes to the intake. he doesn't think it's going any farther then that.
it makes sounds like it is going to crank, but the car kind of shakes and it makes odd sounds out of the exhaust like it is going to backfire.
specific enough? ...i could maybe think of more, ask questions. thanks for your imput
If you take spark plugs out (I hope you know what spark plug is), will it crank?
Has he checked you catalytic cconverter? is the exhaust system free of obstructions?
what could be clogged it it? wouldn't it have to travel through my intake to get in there?
and we just replaced the plugs, i forgot to add that, sorry.
it get clogged after a time. about 10 years or so... i had a messed up one and i couldnt go faster then 30 mph. um, but it cranked just fine... :S
i mean before the interstate that day, it ran fine.
well, there was one day sitting at sake express, it started making an odd knocking noise and the therm went out the roof, i cut it off for 15 minutes, started her up and it didn't do it again, any idea on that?
When I hear it doesn't turn over at all or doesn't crank it makes me think that the engine doesn't rotate at all when the ignition is turned to the crank position. This obviously isn't the case if it sounds like the car is backfiring and you have been able to check the timing. Just a simple misunderstanding due to terminology.
I would check the exhaust just to make sure, but it would have to be extremely plugged for it not to run at all. One of my friends cars was running really weak due to a plugged exhaust (could barely go up a minor hill in first gear) and he held it flat and after about 15 seconds it blew out the plugged material with a loud bang. His car also seemingly ran fine before that afternoon, so it is a possibility that this could be the case with your car.
If that doesn't help I would replace spark plugs, ignition wires, distributor cap, and distributor rotor if they haven't been replaced recently. You may also want to find a used distributor to try. This is a long shot, but it is slightly possible that something in the ignition is worn/weak/etc and arcs or fails to fire under the slight load given while trying to start but could operate fine without load (like when cranking to check spark). One of the reasons I suggest this is because cars that are firing randomly and whatnot do have the weird backfire/intake popping noise you seem to describe.
One question, do you smell fuel if you crank your car for a while. If you know the fuel pump is working you may want to make sure your injector(s) didn't die. A simple way to test this would be to take them out and spray them into a bucket or something while you crank the car and watch that it has nice and even sprays every time.
As far as your car overheating, I don't really have a guess. If it happened a few minutes after startup I would say that your thermostat probably stuck closed and wouldn't allow the coolant to flow, thus baking your engine.
Good luck.
can you show me a guide maybe on removing my fuel injectors? and maybe where they are.
i can't remember if it was here or honda tech that said they werd on the passenger side against the firewall?
remember mines the 90 2wd version. not the 4wd
we tried some starter fluid, it didn't work either, we also tried pouring gas directly into the fuel injection chamber thing, it didn't work either.
i hope nothing big is wrong with the car, it only has 103k miles and its the orignal engine and tranny.
Actually, an easy way to check your exhaust would be to have someone try to start it and put your hand within a few inches of the end of the exhaust. If you can feel the engine pumping a decent amount of air onto your hand then that isn't the problem.
where can i find a good ecu for my car? and possibly a dizzy? what other cars have the same model engines so i can pull there stuff?
are all wagons like that? or just mine, other pictures ive seen they had both side mirrors. were they modified on there?
it was an option for the wagons to have to passesnger side mirror. a lot of times dealers installed these beforehand. my wagon didnt come with one, but i bought a set of euro-spec power mirrors. my families wagon back in the day came with the passenger side mirror because the dealer already had it installed.
nothing different about yours :P
atleast im learning, because i love my car, wouldn't sell it for the world.
only body damage to the car are the fenders and the rear window.
i don't think it's my ecu, honestly. wouldn't i of seen it throwing weird lights before it just died completely?
and could it be my fuel clyinoid or w/e? my mechanic mentioned that.
one last question. where is my fuel pump? i searched and no detailed info on its where abouts, and where are my fuel injectors?
can i remove part of my injectors and see if it's sparying correctly whenever i try turning it over? instead of taking them off competely???
thanks in advance
thanks guys!
if i get the spare wagon i hope i get, im going to pull the dizzy, ecu, injectors then if all else fails, the cat.
replace my plugs and wires, fueses. and hopefully she'll run.
I would definately find another distributor to try. I had an integra that would run fine until a certain throttle position where it would hit a wall or stutter and backfire. This car would have tested fine if I had "checked" the ignition but was corrected once I replaced the distributor and honda ignitors/coils (aka distributor) are known to go bad with zero notice. Any distributor from a 88-91 non-SI or non-RT4WD model will work. Maybe you can find an auto parts store that has one in stock and return it after you try it. If you keep it clean or rinse it with brake cleaner after you're done it won't be a problem to return it(say that your friend had one that he gave you or something).
anyone else?
if my dizzy was bad, wouldn't my ecu throw codes?