Differences Between 88, 89, and 90-91 Wagovans?

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  • Marc_EE9Marc_EE9 Senior Wagonist
    in the UK, the differences ive noticed so far...

    dials and dial surround: the early spec have chevrons on the red, and the buttons are different for hazards, rear window heater etc
    headlights: early = twin bulb, late spec single bulb
    sidelights: early = screw type, late = slide type

    everything else seems to be the same
  • lol im in the process of swapping out my rear wago seat for the single seat part from the DX, i got the butt part in but the back rest is still benched cuz of brackets i need to make my own, i wanted to remove the rear seat completely but i still need to take my girls bro to school and since hes the only 1 that sits in the back i made it a single seater lol
  • draginmywagondraginmywagon Senior Wagonist
    my buddy has the bars in his.. i will get a pic of them first thing in the morning.. his is a 89 and it is stock. i work at honda and i will check why they come in the wagon..
  • lil'ghostlil'ghost Council Member
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    This may be hard to see, but the first Wagon was Stephen's and his was a wagonvan. You can see the bar in the back window on the passenger side if you look. I thought Rev/I had a better picture of the bar, but this is the best I could find. I'm sure someone may have a better picture, but at least it's reference for now. :D

    p.s. this picture is from the Import Alliance meet in Atlanta back in .. April I think ..
  • witeboi18witeboi18 Band Wagon
    local wrecking yard just got a wagovan in ... has some minty interior pieces .. some not so much .. anyways i pulled the cargo bars off of it :twisted: .. do i need the interior trim that has the holes for the bars? or should i just drill some holes in mine?

    also if anyone need anything off of it pm me and ill call and see how much they want for it

    pics for reference

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    HAHA i like how they set it on top of rims instead of blocks lol
  • witeboi18witeboi18 Band Wagon
    lil'ghost wrote:
    558.jpg

    This may be hard to see, but the first Wagon was Stephen's and his was a wagonvan. You can see the bar in the back window on the passenger side if you look. I thought Rev/I had a better picture of the bar, but this is the best I could find. I'm sure someone may have a better picture, but at least it's reference for now. :D

    p.s. this picture is from the Import Alliance meet in Atlanta back in .. April I think ..


    GOD i wanna goto a wago meet! i only see bout 5 wagons here nd they jus have the same rust spots nd just rims or just plain, except for my bois wagon which he sold for 350$ lol nd heres some pics of the bars
  • x88EE4xx88EE4x New Wagonist
    are all of the wagon hatches the same? the front clip, rear bumper, hatch, doors?
  • bam-bambam-bam Council Member
    x88EE4x wrote:
    are all of the wagon hatches the same? the front clip, rear bumper, hatch, doors?

    Yes to all of those, as far as I know. The only difference externally is the front corner marker lights.
  • Marc_EE9Marc_EE9 Senior Wagonist
    JDM doors have impact bars welded in, and I'm pretty sure my UKDM 4WD doesn't.
  • unlimited02unlimited02 Senior Wagonist
    that whole driver side is $... but that cargo cover is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
  • Real quick on some of these questions....

    I am a dealer parts guy and these are the answers for sure for USDM cars:
    88-89 were years for WAGOVAN trim level. It is the only one with factory 'jail bars'. They were to secure cargo and protect the windows from cargo. The wagovan difference was the vinyl seats and one-peice rear seat and door panels without cloth. Plus the bars and a WAGOVAN sticket where the RT4wd sticker goes. The rest is the same as DX.

    The under-seat box was 88-89 RT4wd only. The 90-91 seat pans were different because of the motor mouse seat belts. The safety changes for 90-91 were the elimination of TWO left side dash pockets and the underseat tray. They added SRS elegible seatbelts, rear door beams (so the doors are technically different, but not visibly) lower dash knee bolster and new glove box lid (also a knee bolster) and the dash is different, most noticible around the gauge cluster and where the switches are. The exterior was changed in the marker lights (88-89 screws, 90-91 no screws). Colors were changed between years. Engines were unchanged as were PGM FI options (2wd had 1.5 liter dual point (aka throttle body) injection, and the 4wd had MPFI 1.6 liter).

    Passenger Mirror, A/C, Stereos, Speaker Pods, 2WD rear mud flaps, Door Visors, Audio Consoles, Antenna, Floormats, etc. were ALL OPTIONS! No cars had these from the factory! They are like Honda always does: DEALER INSTALLED ACCESSORIES.

    4WD wagon is DX trim! only addition is MPFI 1.6, RT4wd, and Power Steering (also on DX 2wd automatic models). Nothing else is different between the two except year related differences like under seat tray.

    Rear suspension is different on 1988 models.

    I have a 1991 Civic wagon brochure and Service Manual, Body Manual and ETM if someone has more specific questions. I also have the US accessory listing pages and an 88-91 Civic Wagon paper parts catalog (what we used before we had online catalogs {used at dealers as only way to look stuff up until the mid 90's, oh how far we've come!})
  • HaydzHaydz Moderator
    Awesome post!
  • ladiesman917ladiesman917 New Wagonist
    does anynody know why the 89 wagons have only one side mirror on the driver side and not the passenger side? or is this how all the wagons are?
  • Marc_EE9Marc_EE9 Senior Wagonist
    does anynody know why the 89 wagons have only one side mirror on the driver side and not the passenger side? or is this how all the wagons are?

    only in the USA/Canada

    its just an early spec thing. a lot of old 80's cars only have one mirror, like the Nissan Micra/March
  • ladiesman917ladiesman917 New Wagonist
    thanks Marc_EE9
  • EF-ingwagonEF-ingwagon New Wagonist
    thanks for useful info
  • g. mang. man Band Wagon
    Good info, Kinda bummed my '90 isn't technically a "wagovan" but I'll get over it lol. I use to love vans, and I now love Honda's. Throw those two together, and I'm bound to be head over heels haha. :P
  • efrue57efrue57 New Wagonist
    something small and insignificant, but the 88-89 cargo light had one wire going to a prong on one side of the light and the second wire going to another prong on the other side of the light. the 90-91 had both wires going into one connector and that connector clipped into the light. so if you ever need to replace the cargo light, stay year(s) specific.
  • jwb828jwb828 Band Wagon
    Did passenger-side mirrors come stock on 89's?
  • bam-bambam-bam Council Member
    jwb828 wrote:
    Did passenger-side mirrors come stock on 89's?


    No, dealer option on all 4 years. I have 2 '89's- 1 with, 1 without.
  • Rat-EE2Rat-EE2 Band Wagon
    good info, i tried to put a glove box latch from a 89 in my 90 and it was diffrent. Its just so hard to find wagon parts and the parts I need I cant get but this info will help me so next time I know what parts will or will not fit.
  • ef001282ef001282 New Wagonist
    does any one know if the seat rails are different between the years?
  • Marc_EE9Marc_EE9 Senior Wagonist
    Nope, they are all the same.

    Only differences in seat runners are JDM ones have the puller (for sliding forward/backward) on the right hand side instead of left (UK is left hand side anyway).
  • viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5107

    Look at about.... 2/3rds down the page.
    88/89-90/91 are different. (probly the auto seatbelt garbage.)
  • wagodizzlewagodizzle Council Member and EDM expert
    ef001282 wrote:
    does any one know if the seat rails are different between the years?

    USDM 90-91 are MUCH different then the 88-89.
    why? because of the auto-belts.
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