Differences Between 88, 89, and 90-91 Wagovans?
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Hey guys I figured this would be the best place to ask such a question.
Can we get a list of the key differences between the 88-91 Wagovans? When I say key differences I mean things such as which models had automatic power seatbelts, rear head rests, 60/40 split rear fold down seat backs vs. bench style, etc. etc.
I know for sure the 90-91 Wagovans had the automatic seat belts - did 1989 models have these too, or are they like the manual/regular 1988 style belts.
I know the 90-91 has the 60/40 split fold down rear seat backs with head rests - does the 1989 have this too, or is it like the single bench-style 1988 rear seats?
Do 1988 models have rear head rests?
Did the 88 models have vinyl seats if it was a DX model?
Were the side moldings and bumpers all the same from 88-91 wagons?
These are the types of questions I'd like to know the answer to, plus any other info any of you may have.
I really ran into these questions when a buddy of mine recently started looking for a wagovan, and he saw a few with bench seats, manual seat belts, etc. I know the 88 had that stuff, but I'm not sure about 1989.
All the other EFs were pretty much split 88/89 and 90/91 for questions like these in terms of seatbelts being in the car, or on the doors, side molding differences, different guage clusters, hazard switch locations, corner lenses, etc. etc. all being different for the two distinct styles.
Thanks for any info!!!
Can we get a list of the key differences between the 88-91 Wagovans? When I say key differences I mean things such as which models had automatic power seatbelts, rear head rests, 60/40 split rear fold down seat backs vs. bench style, etc. etc.
I know for sure the 90-91 Wagovans had the automatic seat belts - did 1989 models have these too, or are they like the manual/regular 1988 style belts.
I know the 90-91 has the 60/40 split fold down rear seat backs with head rests - does the 1989 have this too, or is it like the single bench-style 1988 rear seats?
Do 1988 models have rear head rests?
Did the 88 models have vinyl seats if it was a DX model?
Were the side moldings and bumpers all the same from 88-91 wagons?
These are the types of questions I'd like to know the answer to, plus any other info any of you may have.
I really ran into these questions when a buddy of mine recently started looking for a wagovan, and he saw a few with bench seats, manual seat belts, etc. I know the 88 had that stuff, but I'm not sure about 1989.
All the other EFs were pretty much split 88/89 and 90/91 for questions like these in terms of seatbelts being in the car, or on the doors, side molding differences, different guage clusters, hazard switch locations, corner lenses, etc. etc. all being different for the two distinct styles.
Thanks for any info!!!
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90-91 had auto seatbelts, 88-89 had manual
Bumper turnsignal lenses changed from amber (88-89) to a clear with amber insert for 90-91
88 had box-style rear lower control arms like the rest of the civic line
Transmission spline counts change through the years like the rest of the civic line
There was a bar across the rear side windows that I've only seen on 88-89 models. Can anybody confirm this?
So calling a Wagon DX or RT4WD "Wagovan" is technically incorrect then.
Thanks for teaching me something today. I'm pretty picky about calling cars something they are not, like a 92-95 Civic "EG" when it's an EH, etc.
So year model has nothing to do with the style seats then, huh? Weird.
1988-1989 had three wagon trim levels:
Wagovan (base model)
Wagon DX 1500 (middle child)
Wagon 4WD 1600 (top model)
Looks like in 1990 year model they did away with the base "Wagovan" trim level.
I guess this would explain to me why I've seen wagons listed as 1989 models with 60/40 split and clotch seats, and others listed as 1989 models had vinyl seats and the bench fold down rear seat.
Pretty cool stuff.
88-89 "Wagovan" rear seat:
88-91 "Except wagovan" rear seats:
And yeah, most people use "Wagovan" as a catch-all term.
Example:
You want to know if the Wagovan trim level existed in 1990. Easiest way to verify is to call a Honda dealership parts department, or log onto any online Honda Dealerships' parts departments and ask/check that year and see if the trim level is offered.
Same goes for finding out if a certain feature was offered from the assembly line/factory.
Once I was involved in a heated debate on another message board about the ABS option for 1992-1995 Civic hatchbacks. I insistd it was only a 1994 Si option, but others insisted it was also for other years too.
Slam-dunk verification was to call Honda, or log onto www.hondaautomotivepartsonline.com and try to locate an ABS part, such as an accumulator assy for all years from 1992-1995 - 1994 is the only year it showed up.
Same went for the wagovan bench seat vs. DX/4WD 60/40 split seats. The parts catalog specifically excludes "wagovan" from 88-89 split rear seat diagrams, etc.
Also noteworthy for your particular wagovan, jpciii, is that dealerships installed many options, genuine Honda options, that many people think were standard features.
Passenger side mirror, stereo, and even a/c were actually NOT standard on many Honda Civics up until 99/00 or so, especially base models and DX versions. Believe it or not none of these came in your car off the factory assembly line. Chances are before the car hit the showroom floor/sales lot the dealership had the service department add those options to your car durin the PDI (pre delivery inspection) process in order to make more money, and hopefully sell a more heavily loaded car.
Believe it or not a car as nice as a 1992 Civic Si hatchback did not even have a/c or even a radio/stereo deck standard from the factory! Very few ever hit the sales floors lacking these options, so many think they were standard.
My mom's 1990 STD hatch came home with no a/c, no passenger mirror, no power outlet/cigarette lighter, and no stereo - she specifically asked for one that had not been "dressed up" yet when she bought it brand new. She was a cheap ass like that.
Is the seat on the left removable with a little clip which is on the hinge on the USDM models ?
also the different years had different color choices. the 88-89 brown interior was different toned then the 90-91 brown, while the blue and gray stayed the same.
other the seats and upholstery in the Wagovan models they had the same features as the DX. (clock, tach, cig. lighter etc.)
while some people people think the RT4WD were more "loaded" this is only half true. besides the obvious which is that they had 4WD there was no difference EXCEPT that power steering was standard on all models (and they had 4-spoke [90-91 only] steering wheels). pass. side mirrors were optional on the RT.
btw 4th gen Wagovans were only made from 88-89.
and the under seat tray was 88-89 RT only as well.
ok, so i thought that the jailbars across the rear windows were wagovan only, but if wagovans were only 88-89, were they on all those years, or just wagovan :?
hey TIMELESSWHITE, does your wago have jailbars?
Yes, mine has them. I thought about hanging window treatments on them, but they are mounted too low!
:P
THANK YOU!
Btw I put the wagovan's cargo bars on my quarter windows. the slot for the box end is there but the bracket for the end with the screw isn't on the non-wagovans. I just drilled a hole on the body big enough for the plastic anchor to just fit in. the cutout marks are visible on the backside of the plastic panels.just like the markings for the speaker pods on the lower panels its like a 15 min job each side.
damn bars.
(i can't remember)
i know that the interior for the most part is.
also if anyone need anything off of it pm me and ill call and see how much they want for it
pics for reference
Not so. The only wagons equipped with mpfi were the RT4wds. Same d16a6 as the Si hatch I believe. All of the fwd ones (DX and Wagovan) came with dpfi d15b2.