Got F2 Full Coil-Overs on Wagon, but Have Spring Rate Qs...

B18C5-EH2B18C5-EH2 Moderator
in Suspension, Braking & Wheels
Hey all I recently purchased a 90 wagon that already had some nice 24-way adjustable full threaded body coil-overs on it, and while they are nice the ride is STIFF.

This is my daily driver, so I want it to ride more smoothly. I'm basically looking to see what kind of spring rates you guys have used with success in terms of riding more factory like.

Right now the wagon has 11K front, 6K rear - honestly I'm kind of clueless on what that means lbs. wise. I'm used to saying and understanding 550lb. or 350lb. rates.

Anyways I'll bascially be looking for some Eibach ERS coil-over springs, but I want them to be a good bit softer than my currents. I'll just turn the dampening all the way to soft.

It's either that or sell these very nice full coil-overs, hunt for some KYB Gr-2 wagon-specific shocks, and then some wagon-specific Tein S-Tech springs.

I'm very wary of tossing on shocks and springs intended for a non-wagon EF. I also know that when using standard lowering springs you're rolling the dice for ride height. Sometimes it's uneven, and man I really, really hate that.

Any help would be appreciated.

Comments

  • TIMELESSWHITETIMELESSWHITE Senior Wagonist
    stick with the coilovers then, so you can keep it even
  • NJCIVICWAGON1NJCIVICWAGON1 Council Member
    Timeless is right. If you want an even stance you will have to use coilvers at least in the back. Any drop springs you use will leave the back of the wagon higher than the front. Unless you are cool with that.
  • HaydzHaydz Moderator
    NJCIVICWAGON1 wrote:
    Any drop springs you use will leave the back of the wagon higher than the front. Unless you are cool with that.

    Unless you use EF hatch shocks, not wagon ones.
  • wagodizzlewagodizzle Council Member and EDM expert
    i've got Tein Dampers for an EF hatch and the rears are higher then the front, that is, the front had about 2 extra inches to drop while the rear was already on its lowest setting..

    it rides very smoothly though, slightly stiffer then stock of course but for a daily i highly recommend those. (my wagon is a daily as well)

    mine cost me $660, idk what your budget is :wink:
  • jpciiijpciii familEE
    There isn't anything aftermarket that is wagon specific. Many of us use EF struts and some sort of coilover. I use "off-the-shelf" Ground Controls for EG/EK/DC (about the same or heavier than fwd Wagovans) mated to Tokico Illuminas for an EF. Off the top of my head and going on memory, spring rates where approx 330/250. This setup feels nice on the medium setting, but I want to get stiffer springs for the rear. The ride height changes in back depending on how much fuel is in the tank... Even a load of groceries can cause the rear to sag. 95% of the time, the car is empty so it isn't a real problem, but I would still like stiffer rear springs. The front is perfect with a d-series... you might want something a little stiffer with the LS swap. Skunk2 coilovers have stiffer rates, but not crazy stiff like what you have now.

    here is a thread on honda-tech about spring rate conversion... not sure how your F2 springs are labeled, but maybe it will help.

    http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1633963
  • HaydzHaydz Moderator
    wagodizzle wrote:
    i've got Tein Dampers for an EF hatch and the rears are higher then the front, that is, the front had about 2 extra inches to drop while the rear was already on its lowest setting..

    it rides very smoothly though, slightly stiffer then stock of course but for a daily i highly recommend those. (my wagon is a daily as well)

    You mean the rear wheel guard sits higher than the front? With the EF shocks the chassis itself should sit basically flat.
  • wagodizzlewagodizzle Council Member and EDM expert
    thats actually a good question, its prolly mainly the wheel well that looks higher... i have coilovers though and i had my front slightly lower cause i take people in the back all the time... so, idk
  • B18C5-EH2B18C5-EH2 Moderator
    wagodizzle wrote:
    i've got Tein Dampers for an EF hatch and the rears are higher then the front, that is, the front had about 2 extra inches to drop while the rear was already on its lowest setting..

    it rides very smoothly though, slightly stiffer then stock of course but for a daily i highly recommend those. (my wagon is a daily as well)

    mine cost me $660, idk what your budget is :wink:

    Which Teins? Basics? You're saying you can get the car level if need be, but basically you have to set the fronts a good bit differently than the rears to do so, right?

    I don't mind that honestly, as long as the changes don't reduce the travel to where it can bottom the dampener out.
  • wagodizzlewagodizzle Council Member and EDM expert
    Yeah i have the Basics. and yes, to have it "level" on both ends you'll have to have the front setting higher then the rear. thats how i had it, it rides really nice.

    i just had my rear higher because i take people with me all the time.
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