phantom LSD for your wagons tranny and rear end

turbo_tegturbo_teg Council Member
in Engine & Drivetrain
rallysol on honda tech has devised a slick lil set-up composed out of a phantom grip lsd for a b-sereis to fit into his wagon rear diff. heres the page that has pretty much all the info about it.

http://www.honda-tech.com/zeropost?cmd=tshow&id=1708933

im gunna attempt this myself on the spare diff i have

Comments

  • red civic standardred civic standard familEE
    this is huge news!!!
  • turbo_tegturbo_teg Council Member
    ya im suprised i posted this like 3 days ago and your the first to comment on it. now we just need a simple idea for out front diffs which i bet u can get a similar phanton grip to fit into it as well.
  • curtcurt Wagonist
    so how about the front?
  • hondawagonstshondawagonsts New Wagonist
    the phanton grip fits in the trans
    I have on and it works great
    the rear fits aswell i have had one in my other wagon
  • ThatDoodleThatDoodle Council Member
    What a breakthrough! What model phantom grip for the front?
  • hondawagonstshondawagonsts New Wagonist
    its the same for the standard civic tran
    http://www.phantomgrip.com/product_lists.php?make=Honda
    check the link.......
  • Mista BoneMista Bone Wagonist
    "Phantom Slip, works so good you never knew it was there, except your empty wallet!"
  • eldonciv777eldonciv777 Wagonist
    Is it me or does this seem like a bad idea? The phantom grip may help somewhat, but it will just wear out the pin faster, which seems to be the weakest link of our transmissions in stock form.
    "Phantom Slip, works so good you never knew it was there, except your empty wallet!"
    <<what i'm thinking too
  • SiWagonSiWagon Council Member
    Phantom maybe the only choice if you want some type of LSD in a 4WD that's not too $$$ :evil:

    One other choice is to weld the diffs like the road racers do.
  • Dead_BunnyDead_Bunny Wagonist
    wow, that is pretty sweet. i may just get one of these for my wagon and hatch.
  • SiWagonSiWagon Council Member
    In a 2WD a LSD is still a better choice than the Phantom.If you can find one there is a JDM Wgn.frt.&rr LSD on '90+ 4WD Wgn.For more info(Wgn.JDM Options):
    http://www.hondacivicwagon.com/board/vi ... .php?t=595
  • nominousnominous familEE
    I don't ge this.
    The first post is about swapping the LSD into the B serie CR rear diff. Ono a huge amount of use to most of us.

    If Phantom grip do a spring kit for the AWD tranny then is anyone willing to try it ?
    I would o but sems like a potentialy mine field for someone so far away from the USA to get a refund if it turns out to be incorrect.
    From hondawagonsts link. $300 buys you what exactly ??
  • curtcurt Wagonist
    http://www.d-series.org/forums/showthre ... ht=phantom
    this says phantom grip sucks?
  • SiWagonSiWagon Council Member
    :( phantom grip is ONLY good as a LAST :cry: resort.
  • Mista BoneMista Bone Wagonist
    You'll soon see why phantom slip SUCKS (I'm transzex on D-series) as it did NOTHING to prevent the diff pin from exploding. Also did nothing traction wise either.

    It DID however keep the spider gears in place when the diff pin exploded, so the case wasn't ruined, but still a $125 tow bill home.

    $250 for POS Phantom Slip
    $125 labor (I was friendly)
    $125 parts
    $125 tow bill home

    $525 total

    Now if he had listened
    $360 for OBX
    $125 labor
    $125 parts
    $0 tow bill

    $15 ahead and no downtime, but he didn't listen and has to pay me twice.

    Now I know this doesn't apply to the rear diff, but still gonna be problems I bet.

    I'm just a builder of SCCA event winning (RR and AX) transmissions that will also hold 400 whp, nothing special. Heed my warning, others haven't.
  • nominousnominous familEE
    Mista Bone wrote:
    I'm just a builder of SCCA event winning (RR and AX) transmissions that will also hold 400 whp, nothing special.

    So what do you reccommend for those of us wanting to do the same to the shuttle tranny & diff?
    Other than praying.
  • Mista BoneMista Bone Wagonist
    pay a company to make a limited batch run to fit your needs. You should be able to get LSD's for the front and rear for about $5,000.
  • curtcurt Wagonist
    is that all? 5k is pocket change. oh wait no its not damn it.
  • nominousnominous familEE
    Mista Bone wrote:
    pay a company to make a limited batch run

    All for that. All for Quafie doing one for the front and hell the L3 if it's fit both, but always get to about 80% of interest and then it fades out.
    Hell, it's probably not the first weak point I want to worry about anyway.
    Sorting the bearings first makes more sense.
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