oh no's mr.bill! starting issues!!
Dead_Bunny
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history:
i recently picked up a 1990 hatch (for free) with 104k miles, in good condition but not running.
problem history:
1st problem (right after clicking over 100k miles) the car started acting odd, it would start fine, and as you would drive it. The car (with in a mile of driving) would "bog down" and lose all of its power. My friend (who I got the car from) had a local macanic switch out the fuel pump (for nothing shy of 900$...ouch). it solved the problem for roughly 4 days, then led to another problem....
2nd problem, will not start! however, the engine does turn over as if it wants. But it acts as if it's not getting any fuel. Now, my first thought was a bad fuel pump (still not sure, we think the person who switched them might have put in a "used" fuel pump) or distributer (again not sure). my brother worked on the car for about 2 hours. finding the the main relay was fine (it clicks??), but (i'm not sure what the code is) it may be flashing a code.
when he turns the key (to where the radio comes on) the ECU flashes once...and no more...just as soon as he turns the key...BLINK...and nothing more...
our guesses
1. Fuel pump
2. distributor
3. main relay
4. an act of God (telling me to screw the old engine, and put in a b16)
any help would be greatly welcomed!
i recently picked up a 1990 hatch (for free) with 104k miles, in good condition but not running.
problem history:
1st problem (right after clicking over 100k miles) the car started acting odd, it would start fine, and as you would drive it. The car (with in a mile of driving) would "bog down" and lose all of its power. My friend (who I got the car from) had a local macanic switch out the fuel pump (for nothing shy of 900$...ouch). it solved the problem for roughly 4 days, then led to another problem....
2nd problem, will not start! however, the engine does turn over as if it wants. But it acts as if it's not getting any fuel. Now, my first thought was a bad fuel pump (still not sure, we think the person who switched them might have put in a "used" fuel pump) or distributer (again not sure). my brother worked on the car for about 2 hours. finding the the main relay was fine (it clicks??), but (i'm not sure what the code is) it may be flashing a code.
when he turns the key (to where the radio comes on) the ECU flashes once...and no more...just as soon as he turns the key...BLINK...and nothing more...
our guesses
1. Fuel pump
2. distributor
3. main relay
4. an act of God (telling me to screw the old engine, and put in a b16)
any help would be greatly welcomed!
Comments
=\ i've never soldered before, but hey I'm willing to try.
if that becomes out of the question, where can i get a new "main relay?"
I've been looking on majestic honda, and I have been unsuccessful so far.
(completely off topic, and this does not change the main reason of the thread)
http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/aut ... ELECTRICAL
at the very bottom of the list, the "speaker kit" is that talking about the pod's that can be installed in the rear of the car??
on a serious note, go to the Honda dealer for a new main relay. its like $41 or something. i had the same problem, where it would crank but not start and it ended up being a main relay. but you are saying yours "clicks"... ok so that leads me to this:
when you first put the key in the ignition to "on" to start the car and the check engine light goes off, that doesnt mean its not blinking at the ECU. only AFTER the car starts (which in your case it wont) will the check engine light come back on. what im saying is, go check your ecu for codes whether the check engine light is on or not.
And on the note of the fuel pump - a Walbro 255lph intank pump costs $200 NZD so what kindof super special pump did you get for $900 USD??!!
:shock:
ahem...yeah, big time.
I'm calling my brother right now on figuring out "exactly" what the car is doing. (the car is roughly two and half ours away from me at this point)
if any of you feel comfortable doing so, you can AIM me
"MrWeum" is my Screen name
so, that is about all i can give you.
Well, I called my brother and he told me that he heard the fuel pump kick in. He also borrowed someones tools (he left his here at home oops), and popped off the distributor cap. He found oil inside of it (probably there from when the macanic installed it), I told him to go a head and pick one up.
Also, a friend of his in the car club. Told him that if it was the main relay, he could re solder it for us (for free!).
I'll give another update on things. Hopefully by next weekend we'll have this baby up and running. and she'll be in my eager little hands to get her to the body shop (fix the front fender) and wham. i have a ment little hatch on my hands lol. but thats if we're able to get it fixed =P bleh!
(please explain)
I'm positive once we locate the problem, it'll be a cheap fix.
but if you've got a real live tech looking at it for you........the next time this happens, ask him to pop off the valve cover to check too that your valves are seating properly.
my 1.5 was rebuilt and has had that happen 2 or 3 times after sitting too long. ( my own fault for NOT driving it enough)
my buddy identified it and with a socket extention and a rubber mallet, Taa Dah!
the only reason i mention this is because the power loss description was similar to my experience.
good luck
:? Let's start with something easy. :
http://www.hondacivicwagon.com/board/vi ... .php?t=104
it is a 1990 Hatch.
My brother and his friend started to work on the car this evening.
They got it started, and it ran for a few seconds then died.
I know for fact now, the engine is getting full spark (all the wires to the distributor are fine)
the "dieing" was described as bogging down same as before.
it runs, but then quickly shuts off. i'm guessing it is some type of vacuum but again i'm not completely sure what to check.
any ideas? i know it isn't the break booster line.