Been so stoked on getting this stuff done, I forgot. I'll do that tomorrow. I also forgot to put a little history too. I saved it from the junk yard to boot !!!
Thanks guys !! Here's some interior shots. I have the rear seat bottoms also, just out so my golf gear fits in. New seat covers are in the works too. The seats are in decent shape, just trying to find some color matched ones I like.
Very nice, are those seat covers on the front seats? I dig that sony cassette deck you have in there, Im still looking for a good cassette deck to swap with my stock am/fm unit.
Very nice, are those seat covers on the front seats? I dig that sony cassette deck you have in there, Im still looking for a good cassette deck to swap with my stock am/fm unit.
Yup, those are seat covers. Seats are in great shape underneath, I'm looking for something to put on that matches the interior a bit better. I love the old Sony too, I just need to figure out how to program the clock, and I'm set !!
Been slow... Working on a fast idle cold, no idle warm problem. Got it diagnosed down to the carb insulator/base plate gasket. Sourced one thanks to Gasoline Fumes. Going back into the shop soon. Hopefully on the road consistently here shortly.
I'm tired of the carb issues. I've been looking for a reliable option, but am really stumped.
I've been looking for a Redline Weber Kit, but it seems they don't have a compatible kit for this application. I'm hoping someone out there has done a successful carb swap on one of these and may have some ideas or suggestions. The engine runs so well, I don't want to swap, plus I've come a bit ill and health issues doesn't warrant the labor or money involved with an entire swap.
With future medical appointments looming, I need reliablitlity. I really love this little guy and don't want to give it up if at all possible.
I can't really help here other than:
- Your wagon is a great find. So clean and straight - well worth saving! I'm amazed.
- I feel your pain with those 80s Honda carbs aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I had an 87 Accord with a carb. So many vacuum lines and systems so they would pass emissions before EFI. The Accord had 300K on it when I sold it. The 3rd gen Accord had a great internet forum and saved my butt with that carb a few times. Maybe one of the "not just wagons" Civic forums would have some insight?
It says these are for the CVCC engines, the wagon isn't a CVCC. They do say they are 3bbl replacements though. I've sent a request for proper fitment so I can buy one, but haven't heard back yet...
Yeah but it's a honda with a honda motor. They didn't build that motor specific to the wagon. So there's not going to be a "wagon carb" kit out there. Just look at what motor you have, and then see what all civic/crx lines it was crammed in to, I bet it's a match for a whole lot of stuff.
As long as the adapter plate works it really doesn't matter too much. So that would be the big question there. Otherwise it doesn't matter too much. Though my real concern would be a 32/36 being too big for the little civic motor. I have that same carb on my 2.6L mitsubishi motor and I had to jet it down because of it running too rich with the stock jets. Though if they're selling it as a honda kit it should be jetted somewhat close to what you need, so I guess it's still fine. I just have no idea what size the butterflies in the honda carbs are. I know these were slightly larger than the ones in the mikuni carb that was on my truck to begin with.
The Weber 32/36 is your best bet. Fits many Hondas. I just installed one of these kits last week. Check TheGreatBacon's build thread for reference.
I highly recommend searching for a Pegasus Racing Synchronous throttle linkage kit if you go with the progressive 32/36.
It's a very versatile and pleasant setup. Cleans up the engine compartment a bunch too.
I have this setup on my '87 RT. Runs like a dream and pulls pretty good. It runs a little rich. (I blame mine on worn rings) But like GreenTeaGod said... you can simply jet the carb cheap.
As a side note. You'll also need a Fuel Pressure Regulator, like a Holley FPR for a low pressure carb'd application.
An inline fuel filter of some sort. A gauge wouldn't hurt either.
Cheers and good luck.
Car is in the shop getting the vacuum work done. I'm going to stay with the stock carb for now...EDIT: WEBER on order...I can't win for losing...
I do have another question...
I am thinking of a wheel/tire upgrade. Keeping it at the stock height, I am looking at some 15x8 +25 wheels. I'm wondering with 215-50 tires, would they fit in the wells OK with any problems? I guess I need someone that hasn't lowered their rig to chime in on this one...
If someone has this combo, and could measure the height of the setup, I could measure it out on my car...15x8 +25 with 215-50's
About 20lbs. lighter taking all the emissions crap out. Quickie cleanup and some buttoning up done. Have to figure out an intake or get some block-offs made to eliminate the rest of the garbage...Still have to figure out a solution to the breather though.
But I have a howl in the alternator brearing...never ends...
Looking good either way, nice cleanup there. And yep, I had the same whine in my alternator. Swapped it out with a high output one so I have all the juice I need for whatever I end up running.
Looks great GreenTea, but I'm about out of cash now...ugh
After a new alternator and belt, noise still there. Seems to be my new water pump making all the racket. I'll run it for a while to see if it calms down. Probably been sitting on the shelf for 10 or more years...lol
Too bad you can't get to it with that belt cover on. I have a long screwdriver that I use as a stethoscope. Just place the tip of the screwdriver on whatever you're wanting to listen to and your ear on the handle. Works great. You could at least get a listen to the new alternator to make sure it's not the culprit. I've gotten shit alternators before straight from the parts store, and since it's a bit of a pain to get to the water pump I'd definitely take a listen to the alternator before tearing my way in. Hell I've had idler pulleys make a whole lot of noise as well due to bad bearings in them.
I took the upper timing cover off and got an ear down there. Didn't take long to figure out after that. The lower timing cover acted like a speaker box, it sounded like a plane taking off after I took the upper of and started it...Luckily, I had it at the shop when it was done, so it's under warranty. Delays, delays, delays....
Hey, That's my motor!!! hahahaha
I had to take the Mikunis off... They require perfectly even vacuum across all 4 cylinders. This means you need very even compression across those cylinders in order to sync up the Dual Mikunis.... This is not going to be possible with one of these old motors without a simple rebuild. At least new piston rings would be required.
Cheers!! Looks awesome!
Looking good either way, nice cleanup there. And yep, I had the same whine in my alternator. Swapped it out with a high output one so I have all the juice I need for whatever I end up running.
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Yup, those are seat covers. Seats are in great shape underneath, I'm looking for something to put on that matches the interior a bit better. I love the old Sony too, I just need to figure out how to program the clock, and I'm set !!
And got new factory bumper end mounting clips to get my front bumper all secured...Big brother standing guard...
More updates as things progress !!
I'm tired of the carb issues. I've been looking for a reliable option, but am really stumped.
I've been looking for a Redline Weber Kit, but it seems they don't have a compatible kit for this application. I'm hoping someone out there has done a successful carb swap on one of these and may have some ideas or suggestions. The engine runs so well, I don't want to swap, plus I've come a bit ill and health issues doesn't warrant the labor or money involved with an entire swap.
With future medical appointments looming, I need reliablitlity. I really love this little guy and don't want to give it up if at all possible.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-Civic-CRX-1984-to-1987-1300-and-1500-CVCC-Weber-Carb-Conversion-kit-/331298634200?fits=Make%3AHonda%7CModel%3ACivic
What's not compatible about these kits?
- Your wagon is a great find. So clean and straight - well worth saving! I'm amazed.
- I feel your pain with those 80s Honda carbs aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I had an 87 Accord with a carb. So many vacuum lines and systems so they would pass emissions before EFI. The Accord had 300K on it when I sold it. The 3rd gen Accord had a great internet forum and saved my butt with that carb a few times. Maybe one of the "not just wagons" Civic forums would have some insight?
It says these are for the CVCC engines, the wagon isn't a CVCC. They do say they are 3bbl replacements though. I've sent a request for proper fitment so I can buy one, but haven't heard back yet...
As long as the adapter plate works it really doesn't matter too much. So that would be the big question there. Otherwise it doesn't matter too much. Though my real concern would be a 32/36 being too big for the little civic motor. I have that same carb on my 2.6L mitsubishi motor and I had to jet it down because of it running too rich with the stock jets. Though if they're selling it as a honda kit it should be jetted somewhat close to what you need, so I guess it's still fine. I just have no idea what size the butterflies in the honda carbs are. I know these were slightly larger than the ones in the mikuni carb that was on my truck to begin with.
I highly recommend searching for a Pegasus Racing Synchronous throttle linkage kit if you go with the progressive 32/36.
It's a very versatile and pleasant setup. Cleans up the engine compartment a bunch too.
I have this setup on my '87 RT. Runs like a dream and pulls pretty good. It runs a little rich. (I blame mine on worn rings) But like GreenTeaGod said... you can simply jet the carb cheap.
As a side note. You'll also need a Fuel Pressure Regulator, like a Holley FPR for a low pressure carb'd application.
An inline fuel filter of some sort. A gauge wouldn't hurt either.
Cheers and good luck.
I do have another question...
I am thinking of a wheel/tire upgrade. Keeping it at the stock height, I am looking at some 15x8 +25 wheels. I'm wondering with 215-50 tires, would they fit in the wells OK with any problems? I guess I need someone that hasn't lowered their rig to chime in on this one...
If someone has this combo, and could measure the height of the setup, I could measure it out on my car...15x8 +25 with 215-50's
HA !!! TAKE THAT !!!! lol
But I have a howl in the alternator brearing...never ends...
Looking good either way, nice cleanup there. And yep, I had the same whine in my alternator. Swapped it out with a high output one so I have all the juice I need for whatever I end up running.
After a new alternator and belt, noise still there. Seems to be my new water pump making all the racket. I'll run it for a while to see if it calms down. Probably been sitting on the shelf for 10 or more years...lol
Love seeing the progress on these wagons...can't offer much help, but I'll be checking in on progress!
I had to take the Mikunis off... They require perfectly even vacuum across all 4 cylinders. This means you need very even compression across those cylinders in order to sync up the Dual Mikunis.... This is not going to be possible with one of these old motors without a simple rebuild. At least new piston rings would be required.
Cheers!! Looks awesome!