RT4WD bolt to lock down switch plate

1991 civic wagon1991 civic wagon Band Wagon
in Engine & Drivetrain
Today I accidently broke off the head to the bolt that tightens down the plate that switches the RT4WD (on/off) engagement.

Has anyone else done this and what was the solution to remove the bolt inside what I am assuming is the transmission housing? It is hard enough to get a proper extension down there, so I am guessing drilling it out from above is not going to happen.

This is for a manual 6 speed 1988 civic wagon.

I am having a clicking/clanking issue when the car is in reverse and I was messing with engaging and disengaging while trying to rule out issues. It is in 4WD mode now and cannot hold in 2WD. I am afraid that it will mess something up with the potential of slipping between the two.

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  • klumklum Senior Wagonist
    your best bet will be to take off the tranny and have a shop weld on a new nut most likely do you have any pics?
  • 1991 civic wagon1991 civic wagon Band Wagon
    I can try to post an image, but it is hard to get a clear shot down there. It is not the bolt that is used to switch, it is the bolt that tightens down the plate that switches. The bolt that keeps it from switching modes.

    Are there any links of "7 easy steps to remove your transmission" thread?

    Thanks for the reply.
  • klumklum Senior Wagonist
    lol well yea try to get a nice LED light in there and i know what bolt your talking about i always was really cautious from the jump to make sure not to over tighten it as ive broke other more important bolts in the past , its funny you should ask there is only about 7 bolts holding the tranny to the motor ... how mechanically inclined are you? ( dont mean to come off as a douchey question asker. )
  • 1991 civic wagon1991 civic wagon Band Wagon
    241.jpgHere are some images. I have taken out a motor and transmission from an 81 wagon, but it was just to save and not to reinstall. So that would be a little different than this. I do all my work on my cars. I just put in two new front bearings in the hubs. I just never have rebuilt a motor or transmission. I have a clicking in reverse and might have to take out the transmission to find the issue with that. Looking for that issue is what caused this issue.
  • 1991 civic wagon1991 civic wagon Band Wagon
    What not to do:

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  • 503Wagon503Wagon moderator
    Honest answer......you're fucked.

    As for the easy steps to removing the transmission........Step 1 - Remove engine.
  • 1991 civic wagon1991 civic wagon Band Wagon
    Have any links to a remove engine/transmission thread? I would like like to see any links to a thread about rebuilding a manual transmission. I am trying to figure out what the clicking/clunking noise is in reverse. I like to know tips before I start such a project.
  • drfinkdrfink Wagonist
    You can't rebuild them, the parts are discontinued from Honda. Your best bet is to try to find another one.
  • klumklum Senior Wagonist
    take the tranny out drill out old bolt and tap new threads replace bolt looks like all you need to do in my opinion id take it to a shop as you dont sound like you know much about stuff like that ( no offense )
  • 503Wagon503Wagon moderator
    1991 civic wagon wrote: »
    Have any links to a remove engine/transmission thread? I would like like to see any links to a thread about rebuilding a manual transmission. I am trying to figure out what the clicking/clunking noise is in reverse. I like to know tips before I start such a project.


    I dont believe there is a thread walking you through removing the engine / transmission. The clicking noise in reverse could be caused by your transfer case and or possible the reverse gear in the transmission. I had the same issue with my 88 wagon after I bought it. If you want go through my 88 wagon build thread and I have photos of the gear and transfer case take. Apart. Ill post photos in here once I'm home from work tonight.
  • drfinkdrfink Wagonist
    Basically all you need to do is:

    1. Unplug battery
    2. Unplug driver side and passenger side shock tower plugs
    3. Remove ground wires and starter wire
    4. Remove axles
    5. Unbolt driveshaft
    6. Remove exhaust manifold
    7. Unbolt ac compressor if equipped
    8. Remove power steering lines if equipped
    9. Remove upper and lower radiator hoses, and both heater hoses
    10. Remove throttle, clutch, and shifter cables
    11. Put a little tension on the engine with a hoist, remove motor Mount bolts
    12. Pull it out
  • 1991 civic wagon1991 civic wagon Band Wagon
    503Wagon wrote: »
    I dont believe there is a thread walking you through removing the engine / transmission. The clicking noise in reverse could be caused by your transfer case and or possible the reverse gear in the transmission. I had the same issue with my 88 wagon after I bought it. If you want go through my 88 wagon build thread and I have photos of the gear and transfer case take. Apart. Ill post photos in here once I'm home from work tonight.


    Thanks for the info. A link to that would be nice.
  • dove grey 64dove grey 64 Wagonist
    My mechanics had my gearbox out in under one hour without removing the engine. It can be done.
    You will need to use an engine brace to hold the motor in place from the top though
  • GriftyGrifty Wagonist
    Or you could put a piece of wood between the chassis rail and the crank pulley
  • Madr0xMadr0x New Wagonist
    No. Don't do this^ That sure sounds safe let me tell you.
  • 1988rt1988rt Senior Wagonist
    That sucks man, I have a parts tranny if you need any hardware or parts
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