Rva rt

Well hello there folks.

Quick intro, My name is Pierce, and last night I picked up this 1989 RT AWD. The body is in pretty good shape, surprisingly. It's got a relatively new paint job (looks like a Maaco or something by all of the overspray...) and I didn't see much rust from what little I saw of it in the dark last night. It is leaking coolant like WOAH out of the water pump, so I'm going to try to take care of that this weekend. Before driving it home I didn't notice the oil filler cap wasn't screwed on, and a bunch of oil ended up coming out onto the valve cover, and now nothing is on the dipstick, hopefully that won't turn into a problem. *fingers crossed*

The car is USELESSLY low. You'd never guess it, seeing how high the side is off the ground, but the front subframe scrapes on EVERYTHING. The car bounces like a ping-pong ball over every little bump too. I was able to see that it has lower control arms and some brand of coil-overs, but didn't see much else in the dark. The tires are sitting on the inner fender liner, and it makes a terrible noise when driving.

All told though, I'm pretty pleased with it. I had an 88 hatch way back in the day, and I hated it when I had it, but have always regretted selling it. Hopefully this will fill that spot for me.

As far as a long term plan, Don't really have one. This is going to be my daily driver, so it'll probably mainly be repairs in this thread. Don't expect it to move to much, lol.

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Only picture I have right now, it was dark last night, and today we are having freezing rain. I'll get some more eventually.

I do have some questions, is the suspension on this car relatively the same as the Hatch and Sedan? Could I use stock components for those cars on this one? (Obviously, besides the rear drive-line components...) And also, does anyone know how many manual tranny RT-AWD cars were made? Like actual production numbers?

Tidbit: I just thought this was cool, but the VIN on this one ends in 000007. That makes it the seventh ever made for the 89 model year, right?

Comments

  • bam-bambam-bam Council Member
    Welcome along, now let's get to lifting that thing!

    no idea about the VIN.
  • bkmc24bkmc24 Senior Wagonist
    That would be the 7th produced for that year. Too cool. I think mine was also pretty low.
  • Saavedro88Saavedro88 Band Wagon
    bam-bam wrote: »
    Welcome along, now let's get to lifting that thing!


    Lifting, yes, but only as much as to not scrape over everything, not nearly as much as the wagon in your avatar image, lol.
  • To answer your question about the suspension being the same between the hatch and sedan the answer is kinda-yeah-sortof...

    I'll explain, the fronts are almost identical but the rears are different, not in the way one would think... see, the suspension is the same height but the spring is longer and the bottom mount on the strut is lower to give the wagons rear end more suspension travel and increase its ability to haul. You will see this if you lay the rear wagon strut and spring beside a regular sedan, hatch or crx spring and strut.

    Also, you should be able to swap suspension components between honda models to a point, meaning... I had intergra front and rear struts and springs, but of course, also had to have the front forks as the civic models are too small to fit the strut, keep that in mind and even though they fit and came from a sportier car it raised the wagon, late 90s and early 2000 civic si suspension will also lift a wagon a 1/2 over stock all the while making the suspension stiffer since these are lighter cars.

    I had crx front and rear suspension on the wagon for a moment in time, the front felt the same but the rear felt softer if that makes sense, it's been a while.

    I also had form function one's on the wagon for a number of months then moved them to the my crx I had at the time. I think they felt better on the wagon than the crx. Just decided I didn't like my wagon lowered.

    Hope this helps, nice looking wagon, enjoy.
  • Saavedro88Saavedro88 Band Wagon
    ^^Good info. Thanks!
  • chaoschaos New Wagonist
    Nice find man! Paint looks pretty dang good. It sounds like its on ebay slip on coilovers on stock struts, the bounciness can be one of two things or both combined..the struts are blown and/or its riding on the bump stops. Not to mention, the ebay coilovers dont necessarily come with great spring rates.
  • Saavedro88Saavedro88 Band Wagon
    chaos wrote: »
    Nice find man! Paint looks pretty dang good. It sounds like its on ebay slip on coilovers on stock struts, the bounciness can be one of two things or both combined..the struts are blown and/or its riding on the bump stops. Not to mention, the ebay coilovers dont necessarily come with great spring rates.

    I'm pretty sure you're right about the coil-overs. I had a chance to get it up on my rhino ramps today, and there's definitely a coil sleeve and height-adjustment collar, but the shock tops in the mounts looks very OEM.

    Yeah, the paint looks great from about 20 feet. We had some sun today so I got to look it over really well... Man... It's really bad. Lol.

    But thank you for the kind words!
  • jongsrjongsr Wagonist
    Saavedro88 wrote: »

    Yeah, the paint looks great from about 20 feet. We had some sun today so I got to look it over really well... Man... It's really bad. Lol.


    dude, at least you got a wagon! And it's an RT!!! Good find! How much did you pay?
  • Saavedro88Saavedro88 Band Wagon
    Too much IMO but the guy wouldn't budge, and I had to have it. :-/

    If it was running perfectly it might have been worth it, but I don't think it was worth it with the issues it has.

    I also realized today that my tires are different sizes from front to rear. Would this have caused damage to my center diff at all? I don't exactly know how this system works, I have some experience with Subaru's and Audi Quattro, and for both of those, different size tires is a HUGE nono. The driveshaft is out of it right now, he removed it "because someone was going to come tow it." Could he have been masking some issue with it that I'll only discover when I put the driveshaft back in?
  • Saavedro88Saavedro88 Band Wagon
    Haven't made any progress on this, keep running into problems with my wife's E46 and haven't had any time to work on it. But I stumbled across these wheels: http://www.xxrwheels.com/xxr_532.shtml and I think I like them a lot. Anyone have these on their wagon? I'd love to see what they look like on this car.

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    They come in 15 and 16 x 8 inches, both at +20 and +0 offsets. I'm planning to go 16 inches with whatever I buy, but 8 inches is excessively wide for a daily driver, in my mind. Anyone else running wheels this wide? At what offset? And how does it look?
  • Saavedro88Saavedro88 Band Wagon
    Got the water pump/timing belt replaced yesterday and I learned 2 things:
    #1: Fuck you, Wagovan starter.
    #2: Never underestimate the value of a good jack.

    I also discovered I need a couple of parts, the intake tube and a battery tie down bolt-thingy. Can I use any EF chassis intake tube or does it need to be wagon specific?
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