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NorthxNWagon
New Wagonist
I finally picked up a wagon. It's in need of some elbow grease but seems like it's a nice little rig. Needs lots of cleaning up and some issues addressed but I am happy with it.
Its a 1985 4WD with a six speed. 247k miles. Really stock and seems like it's all there. Had the owners manual and dealership paper work in the glove box. A little bit of surface rust in a few places but that seems to be about the worst. It needs the CV shafts replaced (came with a new pair) passenger side mirror, the interior needs attention, rear hatch isn't opening, and needs some help running.
I drove 110 miles down to Shelton from Everett after work to go give it a look. I picked up my dad in the Tacoma area to be a second set of eyes and he is well versed in cars. We get down there and the car was a little more rough than anticipated. Interior smelt of mildew and was just generally dirty. The seller lived on 40 acres with a circuit of trails. We got to thoroughly test out the 4WD on the dirt trails and then took it for a test drive on the road. Tires felt a little out if balance around 55 mph. Other than the tires and a couple rattling noises I though it was pursuing.
The seller was asking $2000 and we agreed on $1400.
On the way home, I heard an intermittent noise that almost sounded like the radiator fan hitting someone,but would stop when I let up off the gas. I made the 52 mile drive back to my parents no problem, vacuumed it out, ate dinner, and visited with my folks and started to make the remaining 60 mile drive home.
About 30 miles in the the shuttle started hesitating in fifth gear around 55-60 mph. Full throttle and it would pull but mid to little throttle hesitated. By the time I got off the highway and got into town it was lurking and jerking at very stop and go.
Today at I tried pouring in a bottle of sea foam and filled the half full tank. Now it won't even idle. I pulled it in the garage and no extra time to look at it.
Since this is my first Honda, I am calling upon you experts for some advice. What would be your next point of attack, if the seafoam is a no go, should I try cleaning the carb, changing the fuel filter and clearing the gas lines?
I will try uploading photos tomorrow.
Its a 1985 4WD with a six speed. 247k miles. Really stock and seems like it's all there. Had the owners manual and dealership paper work in the glove box. A little bit of surface rust in a few places but that seems to be about the worst. It needs the CV shafts replaced (came with a new pair) passenger side mirror, the interior needs attention, rear hatch isn't opening, and needs some help running.
I drove 110 miles down to Shelton from Everett after work to go give it a look. I picked up my dad in the Tacoma area to be a second set of eyes and he is well versed in cars. We get down there and the car was a little more rough than anticipated. Interior smelt of mildew and was just generally dirty. The seller lived on 40 acres with a circuit of trails. We got to thoroughly test out the 4WD on the dirt trails and then took it for a test drive on the road. Tires felt a little out if balance around 55 mph. Other than the tires and a couple rattling noises I though it was pursuing.
The seller was asking $2000 and we agreed on $1400.
On the way home, I heard an intermittent noise that almost sounded like the radiator fan hitting someone,but would stop when I let up off the gas. I made the 52 mile drive back to my parents no problem, vacuumed it out, ate dinner, and visited with my folks and started to make the remaining 60 mile drive home.
About 30 miles in the the shuttle started hesitating in fifth gear around 55-60 mph. Full throttle and it would pull but mid to little throttle hesitated. By the time I got off the highway and got into town it was lurking and jerking at very stop and go.
Today at I tried pouring in a bottle of sea foam and filled the half full tank. Now it won't even idle. I pulled it in the garage and no extra time to look at it.
Since this is my first Honda, I am calling upon you experts for some advice. What would be your next point of attack, if the seafoam is a no go, should I try cleaning the carb, changing the fuel filter and clearing the gas lines?
I will try uploading photos tomorrow.
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As of now it starts right up on the first crank and it will drive but still hesitates and won't idle.
He's right, Chaife is kind of the resident 3rd gen pro.
These was taken yesterday. The day after I picked her up.
I got to spend some time in the garage and start taking a look around. I first fired it up to see if anything had changed. Fired right up and ran... for about a minute or two. I am guessing that once it comes off the automatic choke, is when it is having its idle issue.
I did find a few hoses that were loose or damaged.
This one i found on the passenger down near what I think may be the clutch leaver.
This hose was damaged at both ends. I clipped them off clean and stuck it back on. May need to be replaced. seems to be old and brittle.
A ground strap that was shoved into that hole there. Not sure what the hooked up to.
Found one missing nut on the mounts for the air cleaner.
also that hose off the back side of the valve cover with duct tape on it, yeah replace that guy too lol.
http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/
Ground strap broke on my CRX once and motor died. Get used to rattling noises, it's a wagon!
Have fun with it! I'm excited to see what you do with Her!
I also bought a factory service manual today. I'm pretty stoked on this little car.
So now I am looking into making it run better still, fix the rear hatch latch (it's not opening), and replace the front CV's.
Let's keep it simple, check grounds first.. Lucky for you my little blue wagon has also been suffering from the same thing for about the past month. I decided today to address it.
Here is where your ground should be strapped.
I took my air cleaner housing off and checked all the carb's butterfly valves and vacuum connections..
There is little to nothing that one can do to stop an intake/ vacuum leak on one of these things. What with over a hundred vacuum lines or something crazy... The chances that it has a leak are certainly high... Sad story really. Here's a look at what's under the air cleaner.
Now here is what you CAN do! :smug:
You can observe your engine at operating temp. See if the engine comes to temperature and stays there.
Mine wasn't, so I swapped in a new thermostat today because the idle out of control, so was my temp. There was no choke control because my thermostat was stuck open.
I took this time to flush the system and put new coolant. This is the best I can recommend to start with. As it fixed mine. Hope this is all it is for your new ride!
If all else fails, Weber makes a fantastic Carb that would keep her on the road and the vacuum nightmare out of your hair. Good luck and keep us posted.
Still some what confused about the one open ended tube here.
I got the shuttle to the car wash today and gave it a preliminary cleaning. The wheel wells were caked in mud from PO's muddying expeditions. Tomorrow I am going to pick up and Dri-z-air to dehumidify this mug.