so i got the suspension and i must say that i am very pleased with what i got. they are extremely nice and the only thing different from mine and the pic i posted is the pillowball mount is anodized black on mine. also how much of the shift linkage do i have to cut out in order to make the LS motor work fine?
i got one other question....will 92-95 civic front upper arms, such as the blox and skunk 2's fit on the wagos? if not where can you get a nice camber kit for up front that is the whole arm with the adjustable ball joint?
to answer your question about changing the rear trailing arm bushing, you need a whole damn write-up. If you search honda-tech, there are a couple up there. I'll give you the super short version...
honda makes replacement bushings, but you have to know the part number... it doesn't show up in the vehicle's pages in the parts database (where you got the picture from). There are also aftermarket ones. To remove the old one, there is a special tool that costs around $200. It makes the job very easy and people sell them used. If you don't want to use the tool, you have remove the whole trailing arm.... which means dealing with removing the rear toe compensator arms... which means you'll probably have to drill big holes into the body to get at the hidden nut.
P.S.: the part numbers and procedure is the same for all 1988-2000 civics. (not sure if the nut for the compensator arm bolts is a problem with the later civics, but I know it is for EF's)
yeah i seen the energy's but i heard they bind up and shit.
can anyone vouch that they dont bind up? any comments on em?
The ass-end of my Waggy stiffened up pretty good. I am not sure what you mean BIND-UP but the ride is very nice now!
I need to get my rear-end spring rate :roll: figured out...other than that it's all GOOD!
hmm, well i might just go with the oem ones if i can get em for a decent price.
i need to take some pics of the progress so far im just being lazy about it, but ill get some up tonight. haha.
They do bind, and they cause excessive bump steer under tight cornering. It's most obvious when road racing/auto Xing, and it might not be something you'd notice in easy daily driving, but in the event you want to tackle some twisties, or avoid an accident it'd be nice to have more predictable handling.
Funny you guys are talking about this because I was just talking to a friend tonight about poly trailing arm bushings. He happens to be a Honda master tech in every area, been working/modding them since the 70's, and happens to campaign a successful road race (few of them actually) and circle track Integra, and he said they had some handling gremlins that they couldn't put a finger on until they swapped out the poly TA bushings for Mugen "harder rubber" ones.
We both agreed that even new stock ones are lightyears better than poly.
I run poly everything else in my 1992 Civic that I've auto X'd for years - poly is cool and all, but it does wear faster than rubber.
Lastly you can buy the bushings new from Honda, and there's a specialty tool sold on any Matco/Mac/snap-on tool truck to literally press Honda TA bushings out which keeps you from having to torch them.
Some techs at my shop have the tool (looks slightly different) and once you get access to the bushing by lowering the TA fro the car it takes less than 10 minutes to press both old ones out, then press new ones in. Works by using an impact gun to spin the center portion while the hooks press against the TA itself.
got my new oem RTA bushings gonna get em pressed out then back in tomorrow.
i ordered a full energy bushing kit from builtbynotorious.com the 19th of may and still havent gotten em. FYI dont order from them, they said they would have my tracking number up the same day i called them which was a week after i ordered them and here it is about 13 days later and still nothing. also i found out that the skunk2 front camber kit was on back order through horsepowerfreaks.com so i canceled that and found a set on ebay which should be here by the end of the week. prolly gonna have the rear suspension on tomorrow if everything goes smoothly, then the fronts by the end of the week, at least im planning on that if i get the bushing kit and the front camber kit. also gonna try to be picking up tires this week.
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if the big thing, no just get a new bushing popped in
its its the LCA, might as well upgrade to Skunk2 or other LCAs
where can i get those bushings then?
or how can i just add to them to make em stronger?
honda makes replacement bushings, but you have to know the part number... it doesn't show up in the vehicle's pages in the parts database (where you got the picture from). There are also aftermarket ones. To remove the old one, there is a special tool that costs around $200. It makes the job very easy and people sell them used. If you don't want to use the tool, you have remove the whole trailing arm.... which means dealing with removing the rear toe compensator arms... which means you'll probably have to drill big holes into the body to get at the hidden nut.
P.S.: the part numbers and procedure is the same for all 1988-2000 civics. (not sure if the nut for the compensator arm bolts is a problem with the later civics, but I know it is for EF's)
Check this one out!
http://www.hondacivicwagon.com/board/vi ... php?t=3526
where can i get those rear bushings at and how much?
www.robearracing.com
www.racinglab.com
they have aftermarket gadgets like bushings.
can anyone vouch that they dont bind up? any comments on em?
I need to get my rear-end spring rate :roll: figured out...other than that it's all GOOD!
do ya rly now
i need to take some pics of the progress so far im just being lazy about it, but ill get some up tonight. haha.
thanks
They do bind, and they cause excessive bump steer under tight cornering. It's most obvious when road racing/auto Xing, and it might not be something you'd notice in easy daily driving, but in the event you want to tackle some twisties, or avoid an accident it'd be nice to have more predictable handling.
Funny you guys are talking about this because I was just talking to a friend tonight about poly trailing arm bushings. He happens to be a Honda master tech in every area, been working/modding them since the 70's, and happens to campaign a successful road race (few of them actually) and circle track Integra, and he said they had some handling gremlins that they couldn't put a finger on until they swapped out the poly TA bushings for Mugen "harder rubber" ones.
We both agreed that even new stock ones are lightyears better than poly.
I run poly everything else in my 1992 Civic that I've auto X'd for years - poly is cool and all, but it does wear faster than rubber.
Lastly you can buy the bushings new from Honda, and there's a specialty tool sold on any Matco/Mac/snap-on tool truck to literally press Honda TA bushings out which keeps you from having to torch them.
http://shoptoolsshoptools.com/shopdispl ... onda+Tools
Some techs at my shop have the tool (looks slightly different) and once you get access to the bushing by lowering the TA fro the car it takes less than 10 minutes to press both old ones out, then press new ones in. Works by using an impact gun to spin the center portion while the hooks press against the TA itself.
i still cant remember how much to cut out of the shift linkage to make it fit up properly.
i ordered a full energy bushing kit from builtbynotorious.com the 19th of may and still havent gotten em. FYI dont order from them, they said they would have my tracking number up the same day i called them which was a week after i ordered them and here it is about 13 days later and still nothing. also i found out that the skunk2 front camber kit was on back order through horsepowerfreaks.com so i canceled that and found a set on ebay which should be here by the end of the week. prolly gonna have the rear suspension on tomorrow if everything goes smoothly, then the fronts by the end of the week, at least im planning on that if i get the bushing kit and the front camber kit. also gonna try to be picking up tires this week.