Rear (3rd) driveshaft is shot 4WD wagon - NEED INFO!

farfetchedfarfetched Wagonist
in Engine & Drivetrain
Hi all.
New to this forum but have had my 4WD for a while.
I've been having some vibrations between 45-55 MPH.
BTW I have 91 wagon RT4WD with man transm.
I found that rear shaft at diff companion flange has some play in U-joint.
I also noticed that it is NOT SERVICABLE U-joint "WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot" !
Has anyone converted NON servicable U-joints to a convetional snap ring/clamp type U-joint set-up???
I can get new one for arounf 250-260$$
Any help will be appreciated!

Comments

  • keith750keith750 Wagonist
    unfortunately you have to replace the entire shaft. honda wasnt smart enough to allow you to replace just the u joint itself :evil:
  • SiWagonSiWagon Council Member
    Read more I think some1 here took there's to a machine shop & had it replaced.
  • mvmmvm Wagonist
    Where are you feeling the vibrations ?
  • akiraboyakiraboy HondaCivicWagon.com Founder
    should just be able to goto a driveshaft shop & have them fix the prob...
  • farfetchedfarfetched Wagonist
    mvm wrote:
    Where are you feeling the vibrations ?
    I got a few(about 8-9) years of real 4X4 experience. I've built mine Jeep XJ and helped to build friends Jeeps.
    I was just venting saying "WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot" Honda has made U-joints non serviceable!
    On top of things the machine shop I'd gone in the past doesn't exist anymore!
    The place (4Xshaft) I’ve dealt with for my 4X4 stuff doesn't want to deal with fabbing such prop shaft.
    I will figure out how to get it fixed.
    For now it is in 2WD mod....
    As for vibrations, they were constant as if U-joint has excessive play.
    Cheers!
  • DD Wagonist
    farfetched wrote:
    "WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot" !
    Has anyone converted NON servicable U-joints to a convetional snap ring/clamp type U-joint set-up???

    CRV guys have the same issue, and they have found a replacement alternative, i'd venture to guess they may be similar (my wagon is 3rd gen or i'd check). Search hondasuv.com for many posts on the topic.
  • farfetchedfarfetched Wagonist
    D wrote:
    farfetched wrote:
    "WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot" !
    Has anyone converted NON servicable U-joints to a convetional snap ring/clamp type U-joint set-up???

    CRV guys have the same issue, and they have found a replacement alternative, i'd venture to guess they may be similar (my wagon is 3rd gen or i'd check). Search hondasuv.com for many posts on the topic.
    They have a replacement for CRV. Is CRV 97-01 u-joint the same as Civic 4WD wagon - THANT IS THE QUESTION!!!
  • oncesironcesir Band Wagon
    My 90 realtime developed a vibration around 35-45mph. So I asked an olskool muscle car guy about u joint/driveshaft vibrations. His advice, use hose clamps on the driveshaft to balance things out. I never believed it would work until I tried it. 2 hose clamps later Im vibration free. The trick is finding where the driveshaft needs balancing. It takes lots of adjusting but its worth it. If you need more info let me know, Ill help in anyway I can.
  • farfetchedfarfetched Wagonist
    oncesir wrote:
    My 90 realtime developed a vibration around 35-45mph. So I asked an olskool muscle car guy about u joint/driveshaft vibrations. His advice, use hose clamps on the driveshaft to balance things out. I never believed it would work until I tried it. 2 hose clamps later Im vibration free. The trick is finding where the driveshaft needs balancing. It takes lots of adjusting but its worth it. If you need more info let me know, Ill help in anyway I can.
    Thank you!
    I know all methods to get shaft "ballanced". However, there is no way you can get U-joint fixed if it has worn out causing wibrations that cannot be cured my "hose clamp method" - Only remedy is to R+R d-shaft or U-joints!
    Cheers!
  • oncesironcesir Band Wagon
    Driveshafts dont just start vibrating for no reason. U-joints get old/worn and cause the vibration. I used hose clamps to balance out the vibration from the worn u joint. Dont knock it till you try it.
  • farfetchedfarfetched Wagonist
    oncesir wrote:
    Driveshafts dont just start vibrating for no reason. U-joints get old/worn and cause the vibration. I used hose clamps to balance out the vibration from the worn u joint. Dont knock it till you try it.
    I understand it!
    I don't want to mask the problem, I want to permanently eliminate it properly! Hose clams remedy is temporary use only FYI.
    What would you do with a U-joint that has about 1/16 of end play each way - ballance it anyways - think about it for a momnt!!!
    I also have found that rear diff bushings are worn out (top) causing too much torque wrpa (twist). So I have to take care that problem as well!
    Bushings (worn) will causepremature U-joint wear!

    Cheers!
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