It blew apart at 1500 rpm. Just a little above idle easing it back to my shop from my buddies shop 1/4 mile from my place. Seems like a lot of destruction for such a low rpm.
Is there any good reason to put an 8 valve head on instead of a 16 valve. I have a couple of both. I remember the old 8 valve was really slow compared to the 16 but that was about 10 years ago. wonder if it really was slow or not.
thanks wagodizzle, I wasn't planning to do it just wondering if there was any tangible reason to do it. The 8 valve when in my crx hf got 50 mpg. but was slow as honey in december.
I got the engine out this morning and stripped down before I had to go to work. The oil pan is repairable but I think I found a new one worth the money. The oil pan is bent and punctured on the front and back. There is epic destruction in there though.
This is the oil pan I'm looking at I think it will go right on to replace the old one and at less than $50. http://www.ebay.com/itm/230907806111
Here are the final pics of damage.
Hole in rear of block
closeup of rear
piston and girdle pics.
girdle and holes picture
What do yall think about that oil pan in the link on ebay. It is supposed to be stainless steel.
This is my last block also. When money allows I'm going to start gathering a few more spares. 1.6's, 1.5's Don't really care this is the first time in years that I havent had a couple extra honda engines laying around. I still have a b18 that needs to be built. That is the only other honda engine I have. guess if screw this one up I'll have to start in on the chevy v8 pile we have been hording, lol.
Uh, I am thinking that must be Chinese stainless steel if you know what I mean. Just saying, seems sketchy & too cheap.
I'm sure it is chinese metal. as long as it looks like it will fit I'll pull the trigger on it when I get my taxes in. I have to have one or braze and beat on my old one that has seen broken rods twice. When I got my wagon it had a window in the original d16a6 and a nasty bulge on the oil pan. I beat it in and threw it on.
Well I finally went ahead and cut up my fender. I really didnt want to but o well hopefully I will never lose another engine like I lost the last one. Still left to do is paint the snorkel tube with bedliner and hook the air box to the tube and finish mounting everything. I decide to quit working on that this morning and build my engine when the ups guy dropped off my new rings and bearings. should be on the trails again this weekend.
I got me a new wagon sunday also. Has the notorious head problems but got it super cheap. 1998 outback. Looks nice inside and out. One front foglight busted. No rips or tears on the interior, not even a stain. Clear coat peeling on the top a little. Runs good and all but heats up fast. I checked it all out before buying it and it is getting alot of compression or exhaust in the radiator. So a suby dohc double head job coming my way once the shop is clear of the little honda mud trail monster
Epic engine damage pics! Did you ever get the corner light gremlin fixed? If not, it's probably the integrated control unit that mounts to the back of the under-dash fuse box. The solder joints on the back of its circuit board develop cracks over time. If you re-flow the solder, it should be fine again... exactly the same fix as the common Honda main-relay problem.
Epic engine damage pics! Did you ever get the corner light gremlin fixed? If not, it's probably the integrated control unit that mounts to the back of the under-dash fuse box. The solder joints on the back of its circuit board develop cracks over time. If you re-flow the solder, it should be fine again... exactly the same fix as the common Honda main-relay problem.
Thank you for that. I may try that.It is just anoying sometimes. It will run my battery down over a period of a few days but that just gives me a good reason to drive her every day. It actuall hasn't happened but like once in the month before I blew her up.
I wanted the top of the norkel cap to be flush with the roof basket but that didn't happen. I wound up spending way more than I should have because when you are at the car you get a mental picture of what you want. You go to the various stores buy what you think you need. You watch videos on how to do this and that. You get back to the shop with supplies and nothng goes right and you start over at square one.
Supply list. 3" pvc Pipe
3" dryer vent aluminum flex pipe.
some random intake tubes offf of I couldn't begin to guess but they were laying around my shop outside.
1 offroad snorkel cap from ebay $20.
Rubberized undercoating
I put that little nipple that was for a toilet instal on the air box but that did't work out. so uninstall. I wound up finding an intake that would fit in the air box under the filter and epoxy silicon it in. then I epoxy/silicone anothe 90 elbo from another intake to that one. from there I ran the 3" dryer vent to the 3" sewer drain pvc which I had bent a little with a heat gun then fixed the wrinkling with bondo glass after I had sanded/cleaned the pvc. At the top of the pvc I intalled a regular sanitary pvc 45 degree coupling along with about 6-10" of pipe. I primed all pvc with self etching primer for aluminum and fiber glass. (this stuff sticks to anything) I then put on the snorkel cap and undercoated everthing so it would have a tough black finish. I built a little metal angle piece that clamps to my roof rack to hold the top of the snorkel tube and another bracket that holds the bottom of the snorkel tube. I did not want to drill/screw into the windsheild post incase I ever sell the car and someone want's to take the snorel off. Right now you can take off everything I did and replace the passenger fender and the wagon is normal again.
The air box is unmodified and there is a hole cut in the sheet metal portion of the sub frame and top corner of the fender. everything is 3" which is what the intake diameter is.
snorkel looks sick! i have been contemplating doing the same on the CRV as i get into some pretty deep puddles. except i am having a hard time justifying chopping up my good fender lol
snorkel looks sick! i have been contemplating doing the same on the CRV as i get into some pretty deep puddles. except i am having a hard time justifying chopping up my good fender lol
I really didnt want to chop it up either. After hydrolocking my just rebuilt engine though that decided it for me. Plus as you can see that fender wasn't the best anyway. If I keep going with this wagon it will eventually be bullet proof just gotta keep a step ahead instead of a step behind like I have been lately.
Smoking again! I am trying to decide what to do. I have the subaru all fixed up and while I don't really like it much It is a little better overall than the civic. I really need to fix the civic ....again but really don't want to pull the engine....again, just to put another 1.5 in there. Alas I am thinking about selling it. Unless I change my mind It will probably be over in the vehicles for sale section.....unless I change my mind
Changed my mind. Only took 3 weeks of driving a subaru to realize I still like my honda better. Yes the ac works in the subaru, yes it had nice interior, new tires, nice wheels, list goes on....but that stupid 2.5l h4 1st gen block is terrible. now if I could have got it with the bulletproof 2.2 who knows. But alas I gues the ol girl gets to stay around for awhile and get thrashed on and loved and thrashed on and loved and on............................
well I think I cured the smoking problem all it took was driving the ol honda like I stole it. Last weeks rains left some nice slick open places out at our local out of the beaten path lake and I just thrashed around out there and all of a sudden I noticed I wasn't leaving a smoke trail (as much anyway). I instantly thought that I had ran low on oil and stopped and checked the oil but it was still basically full. I gues I just needed to get it a little warmer than normal to seat the rings in real good.
Thank you. If I could only stop driving her when I have enough money to properly fix everything. She still has mud from last December in the rear carpet or at least where the carpet should be it just pure dried mud right now. and the whole hatch is filled with straps, boxes, fishing tackle, folding chairs, fire wood, and god knows what. But 22 years old and still beating around the mountains pulling boats and having fun.
We went for a little mountain ride this weekend. A quart of oil, $20 in the tank, ice chest full of cold ones and a couple pistols and we set off to find my friends mountain land. Here is where we went on google maps. https://www.google.com/maps/preview?hl=en#!data=!1m4!1m3!1d23872!2d-95.655223!3d34.382476!2m1!1e3&fid=7 On to the pics the first one is a natural rock road I thought it was pretty neat how smooth the rocks are and they are just there naturally like that. [IMG][/img] Then just a cool looking rock wall I had to drive on.[IMG][/img] crossed a creek. [IMG][/img] found a small lake with a dock. [IMG][/img][IMG][/img] some abandoned houses [IMG][/img][IMG][/img]
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thanks wagodizzle, I wasn't planning to do it just wondering if there was any tangible reason to do it. The 8 valve when in my crx hf got 50 mpg. but was slow as honey in december.
This is the oil pan I'm looking at I think it will go right on to replace the old one and at less than $50.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/230907806111
Here are the final pics of damage.
Hole in rear of block
closeup of rear
piston and girdle pics.
girdle and holes picture
What do yall think about that oil pan in the link on ebay. It is supposed to be stainless steel.
Uh, I am thinking that must be Chinese stainless steel if you know what I mean. Just saying, seems sketchy & too cheap.
I'm sure it is chinese metal. as long as it looks like it will fit I'll pull the trigger on it when I get my taxes in. I have to have one or braze and beat on my old one that has seen broken rods twice. When I got my wagon it had a window in the original d16a6 and a nasty bulge on the oil pan. I beat it in and threw it on.
Thank you for that. I may try that.It is just anoying sometimes. It will run my battery down over a period of a few days but that just gives me a good reason to drive her every day. It actuall hasn't happened but like once in the month before I blew her up.
Snorkel on honda civic wagon rt4wd I could not find one on the internet.
1991 honda civic 4wd wagon rt4wd with snorkel
Front view
side view
Finished on out
Supply list. 3" pvc Pipe
3" dryer vent aluminum flex pipe.
some random intake tubes offf of I couldn't begin to guess but they were laying around my shop outside.
1 offroad snorkel cap from ebay $20.
Rubberized undercoating
I put that little nipple that was for a toilet instal on the air box but that did't work out. so uninstall. I wound up finding an intake that would fit in the air box under the filter and epoxy silicon it in. then I epoxy/silicone anothe 90 elbo from another intake to that one. from there I ran the 3" dryer vent to the 3" sewer drain pvc which I had bent a little with a heat gun then fixed the wrinkling with bondo glass after I had sanded/cleaned the pvc. At the top of the pvc I intalled a regular sanitary pvc 45 degree coupling along with about 6-10" of pipe. I primed all pvc with self etching primer for aluminum and fiber glass. (this stuff sticks to anything) I then put on the snorkel cap and undercoated everthing so it would have a tough black finish. I built a little metal angle piece that clamps to my roof rack to hold the top of the snorkel tube and another bracket that holds the bottom of the snorkel tube. I did not want to drill/screw into the windsheild post incase I ever sell the car and someone want's to take the snorel off. Right now you can take off everything I did and replace the passenger fender and the wagon is normal again.
I really didnt want to chop it up either. After hydrolocking my just rebuilt engine though that decided it for me. Plus as you can see that fender wasn't the best anyway. If I keep going with this wagon it will eventually be bullet proof just gotta keep a step ahead instead of a step behind like I have been lately.
SNORKEL rocks...!!! :encouragement:
Changed my mind. Only took 3 weeks of driving a subaru to realize I still like my honda better. Yes the ac works in the subaru, yes it had nice interior, new tires, nice wheels, list goes on....but that stupid 2.5l h4 1st gen block is terrible. now if I could have got it with the bulletproof 2.2 who knows. But alas I gues the ol girl gets to stay around for awhile and get thrashed on and loved and thrashed on and loved and on............................
i saw this on youtube before i saw this. you have the best civic wagon hill climb on youtube.
basket is sweet too