Windows fogging up

hatchback19hatchback19 Band Wagon
in Bodywork & Cosmetic Modifications
Hey guys,
I was curious weather this was a "Civic Wagon" issue, or just maybe worn door seals issue. I have an 88' wagon and it fogs up terribly, the front two windows and windshield will defog with the vents on but the rears are still covered, to the point where its a bit dangerous and hard to see out of. I was wondering if you guys also experianced this or if possibly my door seals are that worn out? If its the latter of the two, does anyone know if the sedan door seals are the same as the wagon? Any advice would be appreciated, thanks a lot!
Matt

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  • davensdavens familEE
    Not an answer to your specific questions, but its a possible solution to your problem...
    Have you considered using an anti-fog treatment on the interior window surface?
    Rain-X makes one...I can't recall the name (Fog-X? I dunno). Any auto parts store will carry it, even the auto section of a Wal-Mart.

    I used to put it on my prescription glasses...There are few things as annoying as getting out of an air conditioned car on a Texas 90% humidity/ 100 degree summer day and *poof* instant no-see.
  • nex_episode_wagon_alaskanex_episode_wagon_alaska New Wagonist
    jus wondering do you have it on recycle air?
  • hatchback19hatchback19 Band Wagon
    Thanks for the replies, I haven't tried the Fog product yet, as another issue has been in the winter my heater has tobe on constantly. If I turn it off for just a minute the tempature drops dramtically, I was then thinking these may be linked to the door seal idea.
    I keep it right in the middle usually, as someone suggested that to fix my problem, but it quickly became apparent that it didnt help. Do you suggest keeping it entirely one way or another? Thanks,
    Matt
  • KahunaKahuna familEE
    Stop making babys in there and it won't do it. :lol:

    Seriously though, I've had some window cleaner make my windows fog up, maybe it's that.

    My windows do the same thing, 3 coats of Fog-X and they still do it a little, I turn my heat on high and crack the my window just a little and they clear up pretty good.
  • jhotajhota familEE
    it's an old Honda issue. doesn't matter the model, but just about every Honda i've seen from around 85-93 does it.
  • ragenasianragenasian Moderator
    Both of my wagons do the same thing. I found that there is a small leak under the glove compartment which somebody told me could be from the sunroof drain. My 200sx S13 also does this because the rear hatch leaks. So make sure you have no leaks anywhere. The white wagon would have a standing puddle in it and the red wagon you wouldn't even notice it but it does have water inside. This could be the cause of your problems also.
  • lalunettelalunette familEE
    hatchback19 wrote:
    another issue has been in the winter my heater has to be on constantly. If I turn it off for just a minute the tempature drops dramtically

    Well, living in a cold climate I can empathise with your situation.

    In winter I keep the heat on all the time, usually on max, with the setting on Defrost and the blower on 2.

    Be sure to keep the air intake on "Fresh" rather than "Recycle" as this will fog your windows up real quick.

    I was reading in the owner's manual that Honda suggests putting the air on Recycle for the first little while so you heat the inside air only and thereby warm up the car faster. Then, before the windows fog up, switch to Fresh air and, voilà, problem solved.
  • jhotajhota familEE
    turning on the a/c will clear it right up as well.

    if you have a/c.

    and it works.
  • KahunaKahuna familEE
    I've never understood the fresh air vs. recirculated air.

    Whats the difference?
  • lalunettelalunette familEE
    Kahuna wrote:
    I've never understood the fresh air vs. recirculated air.

    Whats the difference?

    Quite simple actually...

    Fresh air comes directly from outside.

    Recirculated air is air from the inside of the car.

    When you pick recirculated air you are actually closing off the fresh outside air and increasing the humidity content of the inside air.

    Does this help?
  • KahunaKahuna familEE
    I see.

    I never understood why it mattered, but I guess if the humidity changes it would make a difference. Thanks
  • HaydzHaydz Moderator
    The biggest thing you can do is clean your windows. This will stop shitloads of condensation on the windows. When you clean them use a proper glass cleaner and use newspaper, not a cloth, get in there really hard and remove the streaks, newspaper works a charm.
  • SiWagonSiWagon Council Member
    jhota wrote:
    turning on the a/c will clear it right up as well.

    if you have a/c.

    and it works.

    jhota's right. :? AC doesn't mean that it has to be on COLD.Turn it to HOT.Basically the AC is a Dehumidifier .If you're in the wgn long enough the AC will defog both the frt & rear windows,then you can reduce the air speed down to a lower number.This is the BIG reason I recommend peeps get AC.This is also a good trick when you're overheating(cause it turns on both engine fans). 8)

    :idea: The reason I believe Civic's fog up is 'cuz it's a econo car.If you insulate all the doors,headliners,side panels & floor like in mo expensive cars.Our wgns would be quieter ,warmer & that 25watt beat would sound like a 75watt stereo.The bass would be deeper. 8)

    :arrow: Single passenger or more :?:

    Kahuna wrote:
    I've never understood the fresh air vs. recirculated air.

    Whats the difference?
    The choice is whether the outside is cooler or warmer than the inside.It's a 110 degrees out & your wgn sat in the sun for hours.You drive off.Slide handle to "fresh air".The hotter air in the vents will come in till the outside cooler air enters.As the AC & fresh air cools the inside down enough to the point that the inside is cooler than the outside,THEN you slide the handle to recirculated air .This recirculates the cooler inside air,which in turns saves :D gas.

    Your friend ate to many eggs & cuts 1=use fresh air & open both side vents.
    You drive by a cattle ranch...smells :x =use recirculated air & close side vents.
  • heraldhamsterheraldhamster Wagonist
    my advice is be careful with the Rain-X defogger if you have tinted windows, as some of us do. it's generally not formulated for plastic anything.

    been having this problem for a while. I get a large amount of water in the heater/blower duct when it rains. this leads to higher humidity in the heater duct itself and hence is blown onto the windows.
    there's a rectangular, black plastic cover (about 4" x 8") under the black trim/cowling behind the hood and below the wiper arms, on the passenger side. there's about 9 or 10 fragile retainers that hold the long, thin black trim/cowling thing. if the foam rubber "gasket" for the plastic 4 x 8 cover has degraded, which it will after a few years, you will get water (I don't have a sunroof so that's not a consideration for me)
    I bought one of those crafty foam sheets from Mal*Wart in the kiddie section of the crafts. they're about 1/16" thick. you'll have to trim it to fit, but I don't see that as a problem for the customizers here..

    as someone mentioned, the fresh air & A/C does help a great deal, but I think fixing a leak should eliminate the problem altogether.
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