Overheating

ok. car has, new headgasket, new thermostat, fresh coolent.

car drove fine for 2hours yesterday, after the new coolent, thermo, and an oil change, first time it hasnt overheated since i have drove it, it was 89degreese outside.

tooday, went to drive the car, was not even driving it for 10mins, and it started overheating, it was 105degreese outside.

any help, would be appreciated.
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  • JakerJaker familEE
    Stop and go traffic today? Freeway driving yesterday?
  • imprtedcivicimprtedcivic Band Wagon
    backroad driving non overheating, and main "highway" overheating, couple stop lights, but the car does not overheat at idle.
  • JakerJaker familEE
    How's your rad?
  • imprtedcivicimprtedcivic Band Wagon
    well, it dosent leak, as far as i can tell on the ground.

    no marks on the motor as to where it has/may have been leaking.
  • jloehleinjloehlein Band Wagon
    Did you get all the air pockets out of the coolant? Also, is the fan turning on?
  • Mista808Mista808 Band Wagon
    When it overhears, touch the upper radiator hose, and touch the lower radiator hose. If if one is hot and the other isn't, possibly a faulty thermostat.. I both are hot, then your thermostat is good.

    Possible faulty coolant temp sensor, maybe water pump going bad... I would pressurize the cooling system and look for leaks anywhere..
  • imprtedcivicimprtedcivic Band Wagon
    jloehlein wrote:
    Did you get all the air pockets out of the coolant? Also, is the fan turning on?

    yes, squeezed both lines till air bumbled out,. then filled more

    yes fan turns on.
  • Mista808Mista808 Band Wagon
    Take the radiator cap off, and let the engine run and reach operating temperature. Add coolant so the level is right around the neck area. The system will bleed/rid of air bubbles on it's own. And you'll see if you are leaking combustion gasses into your cooling system.
  • ak_ef9ak_ef9 Band Wagon
    Ho0w does the radiator look? Are the fins all bent or filled with dirt or crap?

    one thing it can be is the waterpump not circulating coolant
  • HENGEEHENGEE New Wagonist
    Having the same problem with my wagon, Getting ready to chance the head gasket also. I help that takes care of the problem.
  • jasnalljasnall Wagonist
    How would a head gasket effect overheating?
  • cbothacbotha Band Wagon
    If had head gasket has a leak, coolant can escape so with low coolant you do not get the heat transfer out of the radiator.
    Also, the system will not pressurize properly and the coolant will boil at a lower temperature.
  • punx45punx45 Band Wagon
    make sure the radiator area is clean i have seen on some older wagons lots of dirt and debree gathers on the radiator and the surrounding area this is like putting a blanket on the radiator and that will reduce its efficency by alot.
  • at idle its ok, on the highway it overheats.
    thermostat- may be bad it happens usually on non factory parts. but it would overheat at idle
    water pump- could be same as thermo overheat at idle

    My thought, sounds like it may be running lean at the higher rpm. Valves adjusted proper, timing set correct.
    You just did the head gasket did you re torque it after the 1st drive? possible leak.
    also sound like you have warmer weather 50/50 coolant is better than more coolant water disapates heat quicker then antifreeze. hence "anti - freeze"
  • Possible Plugged radiator.
  • jpciiijpciii familEE
    Possible Plugged radiator.


    yeah, especially if some former owner poured "stop-leak" into the cooling system.
  • Is your radiator fan hard-wired, or does it still have the original plug?

    I had a friend whose civic had the fan hard-wired, and the wires were switched around. Caused the fan to operate in reverse, and it was fine at idle, but overheated at speed, because the fan was trying to push air forward against the natural flow, causing basically no airflow over the radiator.
  • HENGEEHENGEE New Wagonist
    My fan took a shit on me & then the overheating began, Now I'm thinking I should chance my water pump too.
  • ccareyccarey New Wagonist
    Id check that water pump as well, if its going bad as your getting up to highway speeds it cant spin fast enough to keep up but it will at idle.
  • 1sickboy1sickboy Band Wagon
    Did this get solved it's been like 16 day's? Did you change the cap out? A simple $7 part can give you havoc!
  • ratchetratchet New Wagonist
    I'm having similar problems with my new (to me) 89 2wd, timing is dead on, going to flush the system now and throw the thermostat in some boiling water and see if it opens up. If neither fixes it I'm pretty sure it's my waterpump... Good luck to you, hope its simple!
  • SiWagonSiWagon Council Member
    No ones asked about whether the fan ever came on? 1 or both?
  • ratchetratchet New Wagonist
    Just to let you know... My 4 am endeavors last night were fruitful! I removed the upper hose, removed the lower hose from the t-stat, removed t-stat, ran a hose into the radiator and flushed it out, lots of rusty muck. Ran the hose at full pressure til she ran clear, then stuffed the hose into the head and repeated. After that I went inside, filled a pot with water, Put it on the stove and threw the t-stat in, waited a few minutes. Sure enough she opened up, so i cleaned all my parts and reinstalled, drove to the 24hr pressure wash and blasted the motor and both sides of the radiator.

    I left there and drove the piss out of her, 6 consecutive 100+ mph passes followed by driving like a granny. Car never went over the halfway mark :) needless to say I'm very happy, I really don't want to Chang the water pump... Good luck!
  • ratchetratchet New Wagonist
    I had a friend whose civic had the fan hard-wired, and the wires were switched around. Caused the fan to operate in reverse, and it was fine at idle, but overheated at speed, because the fan was trying to push air forward against the natural flow, causing basically no airflow over the radiator.

    How did you guys figure that one out? Before reading this I wouldn't have ever thought about it... Just one of those things you assume is right i guess, haha! Good work!
  • I felt it blowing hot air at me out the front of the car while it was parked!
  • ratchetratchet New Wagonist
    I felt it blowing hot air at me out the front of the car while it was parked!

    That's a trip. My buddy had this pos 90s ford that the previous owner rewired things for reasons I couldn't figure out. Anyway, we could not figure out why it would get hot on the highway, something like this I wouldn't have guessed, but reading that now, thinking back, I remember feeling a lot of air movement at my crouch when I was leaning over checking the coolant level... I recall making a blow job comment... And it never occurred to me, but I am damn near positive that was the problem, lol! Oh well, he traded it for another headache...
  • BlistaBlista Band Wagon
    To OP : even a new thermostat can be bad, or badly installed in its housing.

    I'd never though of an inverted-wiring fan neither.
  • did this get solved?

    i just changed my thermostat, because i'm driving to cali from kansas again. now it over heats and didn't before.

    perfect at idle, temp raises when i get on the highway-then goes down as i slow down.
    wtf!
    so i replaced the thermostat w/ oe honda. still happens.
    fan works
    thermostat works
    new cap twice
    new fan switch
    new temp switch
    flush radiator(it was clean)-used 50/50
    water pump works(no noise coming from it, i'v atleast 30,000 more miles on it.)
    no milky oil.

    i'm thinking of doing a compression test on radiator or changing the water pump.

    i'm stuck.

    what do i do?
  • SiWagonSiWagon Council Member
    How hi does the temp go on the gauge?
  • 3/4 of the way then, then goes down 1/2. then @ normal.

    i do see the reservoir filling up, but not overflowing and sometime it doesn't fill up.

    i'm baffled.

    should i replace the water pump?

    this is costing me.
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