Diamond racing wheels

So i really want to get a set of diamond racing wheels. I was thinking 14x7 or 14x8 with 5" backspacing (about -12 offset i think). What do you guys think? Im trying to improve my handling and get some thicker tires and smaller rims (i have 16s at the moment), what size tire would be good? Thanks for the help
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  • i think with that wicked of an offset you're going to need to get really good at replacing bearings....
  • AaronAaron Wagonist
    on 14x7s, thats not that serious compared to what ive seen
  • its the -12 offset that will kill it, especially if you plan on doing aggressive driving. Im not saying do not do it, i think they look like sex on older cars, im just informing you of the drawbacks to having such a negative offset. it puts a lot of stress on the wheel bearing.
  • AaronAaron Wagonist
    Much like these wheels
    http://www.superstreetonline.com/featur ... index.html

    pure function is what im going for, not the hella flush look
  • If you want pure function then go with a set of 15x8" +40et running 215/50 Tyres.
    They will fill the guards out, wont ruin the suspension geometry by radically changing the track of your car and will put heaps of tyre on the road.
  • man i like you already hahaha, function over form :)
  • AaronAaron Wagonist
    you can only get the back spacing on them from 1" - 5" though, so idk how i would get +40 from that
  • Aaron wrote:
    you can only get the back spacing on them from 1" - 5" though, so idk how i would get +40 from that

    You wont, thats what im saying.

    That Civic you posted will handle like crap, big squishy sidewall, radically altered track etc awesome for drag racing but thats about it unless you spend a lot of time/money setting up camber, toe, height, spring rate, bound, rebound etc.
    Also its only running 205 tyres, thats not overly big at all.
    Being such a low offset most of the wheel is on the outside of the hub, so a lot of the force is being transferred onto your wheel bearings due to the altered angle.
    It really isnt necessary to have the wheels sticking out that far as you arnt really gaining much/anything from it.

    If you want a big footprint for added grip/function you really need to go for a wider wheel with less back spacing.
    Something like this:
    http://www.hondatuningmagazine.com/feat ... index.html

    Thaaats Function, huge sticky tyres, well thought out suspension set up, no crazy camber to make wheels fit, not slammed so that suspension arm angles are at a good angle (pointing up is bad for handling). Perfect
  • MrM3MrM3 Council Member
    Diamond Racing is one of the worst trends to ever hit Hondas. -12 is going to look like dog ass on there too. There's no "function" in that at all. With the amount of camber you will need to run there will be 1" of tire actually connecting with the road. Good luck :roll:
  • AaronAaron Wagonist
    ok, with all that being said, what are some good, cheaper wheels that would work? Sorry if i came off ignorant i obviously know nothing about wheels lol
  • ok? sooo are the diamond racing wheels bad? cause i was thinkin bout getting
    a set. wanted something different with a little bit of a lip but nothing too crazy.
  • for sure i was planning on getting diamond racing wheels, but know nothing of wheels so can someone point me to the right direction for awesome handling and not just looks
  • Anything with a decent width and an offset around +35 to +45 will be absolutely fine. Match that with decent tyres as well as a good suspension set up and you will be away laughing.
  • If you're going for function, I'd look for some oem Civic HX wheels or a set of used Rota Slipstreams. Both of those are fairly cheap and very lightweight - which will make a noticeable difference in how quick your car feels.
  • jpciii wrote:
    If you're going for function, I'd look for some oem Civic HX wheels or a set of used Rota Slipstreams. Both of those are fairly cheap and very lightweight - which will make a noticeable difference in how quick your car feels.

    Civic HX wheels will be too narrow. Need to be able to get a decent width tyre on there.

    The weight of the wheel changes stuff all with how fast your car is, I have a set of forged wheels for my Type R which are 2.8kg lighter per wheel than the OEM 98spec wheels and there is absolutely no difference in how the car feels at all.
  • MrM3MrM3 Council Member
    If you are wanting cheap then look in to Rota. I personally don't care for Diamond Racing but I absolutely despise them when they have ridiculous offsets so maybe you can look into those without doing a dumb size. I have 15x7 +15 on my car and they were difficult to get under the car even with some negative camber and the fenders and quarters rolled. You said you wanted function and the amount of camber you would need just doesn't make sense for function. NZ-DBR is totally correct, to get the most function out of your wheels stick with a +35 type wheel. That way you would have the total tire on the ground and no fitment issues.
  • NZ-DB8R wrote:
    Civic HX wheels will be too narrow. Need to be able to get a decent width tyre on there.

    The weight of the wheel changes stuff all with how fast your car is, I have a set of forged wheels for my Type R which are 2.8kg lighter per wheel than the OEM 98spec wheels and there is absolutely no difference in how the car feels at all.

    Agreed that HX wheels wouldn't be the highest-performance option possible. They would still be pretty good with 195/60-14 tires, though. If going with Rotas(or similar), 195/50-15 or 205/50-15 should provide more feedback/steering response/better cornering... If the car is going to spend most of its time on the street, I'd personally rather have HX wheels and enjoy some smoothness that the taller side-wall 14" tires offer (but, I'm old and have a really long commute). Also, 14" tires are cheaper.

    As for the effects of wheel/tire assembly weights - no fair, man, your car actually has lots of power! haha. Depending on what Aaron is rolling now, the potential is there to trim 4.5-7kg(10-15 lbs) per wheel or maybe even more. That's about as much weight reduction as removing the rear seats and the sound-deadening tar from the floors. Even better: it's not dead weight being removed, it's rotating mass. If we're talking about a stock 88-91 Civic with 88 horses, that would make a BIG difference.
  • AaronAaron Wagonist
    Well right now i have 16x7s but idk it just doesnt feel planted, Looking at getting 949 racing wheels 15x9s in the rear and 15x8s in the front
  • jrbumpjrbump Band Wagon
    any decent 15x7 with good tires. Find some used kosei k1's.

    Are you competing at nats?

    No?

    then you dont need 6UL's

    lols.
  • PavementwagoPavementwago Senior Wagonist
    MrM3 wrote:
    Diamond Racing is one of the worst trends to ever hit Hondas. -12 is going to look like dog ass on there too. There's no "function" in that at all. With the amount of camber you will need to run there will be 1" of tire actually connecting with the road. Good luck :roll:

    OUCH that hurt....

    i love my dr's
  • are the 6ul really good rims?
  • jrbumpjrbump Band Wagon
    6UL's are the hot ticket for your EF or a miata "if" you are competitive. Great price for what you are getting.

    For the average autox entrant they are overkill.

    I'd love to have them on my CRX but i'd hate to be "that guy" .
  • i hate that i am about to say this but, look into enkie rpf1's...

    they come in numerous sizes and offsets and are super light and still fit good in your wallet. i HATE the wheel with a passion because every fan boy and their mom buys them to look like a racer, but if you are actually going to track your car, i'd suggest those.
  • MrM3MrM3 Council Member
    MrM3 wrote:
    Diamond Racing is one of the worst trends to ever hit Hondas. -12 is going to look like dog ass on there too. There's no "function" in that at all. With the amount of camber you will need to run there will be 1" of tire actually connecting with the road. Good luck :roll:

    OUCH that hurt....

    i love my dr's

    lol sorry man that's just how I feel. Your fitment isn't bad so that helps. I'm just so tired of seeing -100 degrees of camber to get a wheel to fit. It's basically became an internet bragging contest to see who can get the lowest offset and the car's appearance suffers for it.
  • jrbumpjrbump Band Wagon
    btw, i should mention 6UL's are a little soft for the street.
  • PavementwagoPavementwago Senior Wagonist
    MrM3 wrote:
    MrM3 wrote:
    Diamond Racing is one of the worst trends to ever hit Hondas. -12 is going to look like dog ass on there too. There's no "function" in that at all. With the amount of camber you will need to run there will be 1" of tire actually connecting with the road. Good luck :roll:

    OUCH that hurt....

    i love my dr's

    lol sorry man that's just how I feel. Your fitment isn't bad so that helps. I'm just so tired of seeing -100 degrees of camber to get a wheel to fit. It's basically became an internet bragging contest to see who can get the lowest offset and the car's appearance suffers for it.

    Its all good. I can a will.do more positive camber. And I gotta do a better measure on height. But dam ur real low. Wht have u done to clear the a arms. I still hit on mine
  • MrM3MrM3 Council Member
    ^ I'll answer in the other thread as to not hijack this one.
  • AaronAaron Wagonist
    So for my budget, all i can really get is slips 15x8 +40. I still dont get how diamond racing wheels arent really that good, is it just the civic platform isnt good for the wheels?
  • MrM3MrM3 Council Member
    Nobody said Diamond racing wasn't good for a Civic, however the offset that you were talking about would not be good for the "function" that you are looking for. You say you are looking for pure function but then are talking about a wheel that will not allow full contact to the road. Like I said the camber that would be required would take away all "function" that you are wanting. If you were to choose a different offset that would allow proper fitment then I wouldn't have said anything. This type of fitment is the reason that I do not care for Diamonds:

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  • AaronAaron Wagonist
    Well the model i was looking at getting only allows from 1.5"-5.5" backspacing, and i would get 5.5", So 5.5" of back spacing on a 14x8 wheel, you think thats to much offset?
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