Stolen car wacked my awesome 91T4WD. worth fixing?

Last night I am sleeping and am woken up by a pounding on the door. Some kids in a stolen car crashed and took out 4 cars on my block. Of course they hit my car first!! It's a 1991 RT4WD with only 130k miles, in EXCELLENT shape. They hit the rear drivers side bumper. It took out the rear drivers side tire, and bent, mangled and tore up every piece of suspension, axle, rim etc. on that tire. It also smashed the light and banged up the bumper and quarter panel back there pretty good. The fixablility issue is really with the rear wheel, axle, suspension etc. Assuming EVERYTHING, brakes hub wheel, axle, suspension etc. needed to be replaced. what kinda dough are we talkin? My insurance is likely gonna total it, and I am buying it back for sure. Of course without seeing it blah blah blah.
Could the rear differential be screwed? No fluid is leaking.... But the axle is hyperextended.

And if it's not worth fixing... I have a 1.6 with 130k and a nice 4wd auto tranny for sale.

-m


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  • falferosfalferos Band Wagon
    If you love the wagon, I say fix it.
  • i say we need pictures!
  • turbo_tegturbo_teg Council Member
    503Wagovan wrote:
    i say we need pictures!
  • simplyhondasimplyhonda Council Member
    Pictures^3
    I would say fixing it shouldn't be too bad . Bet you can get all the suspension from the Junk yard for around $100. Hate to hear it happened. That really sucks!
  • Pictures today.
    Yea, I looked in the light yesterday. The bumper and rear drivers QP are banged up pretty decent, but I can live with it, really. The light is of course all smashed up. The wheel is bent. And pointing about 45 degrees off. The axle appears hyper extended. The shock/spring look OK, just super extended. The parts holding the axle in place, the rear equivalents of the front steering parts, are all bent to hell. Control arms and whatnot. I don't SEE any brake fluid, so the brakes may be OK. I guess my question are:
    Could the frame where those bits mount be ruined? [I know, really needs to be seen. we're talking hypothetically]
    What parts do I need, assuming everything back there needs to be replaced?
    I don't see any fluid or anything, and the axle didn't rip out, but could the differential be screwed?
    I don't do my own front-end work [axles, tie rods, ball joints etc] - however I do just about everything else to my cars. How hard is it to pull all that stuff off and put new stuff on?

    Oh and last but NOT least: Are there any wagon specific parts back there, or am I good to pull control arms etc. from the junkyard from any 1991 honda civic?
    I am SO pissed.
  • the lcas & ucas are the same, however the rest are different, shocks are taller (if you don't have it lowered), the hubs have the 4wd parts, and the trailing arms are bigger
  • OK, so here's the pics. Doesn't look good to me, looks EXPENSIVE.
    And I can't source the parts locally, I have someone on it, but....

    Looks like frame damage to me.

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  • BTW - Likely I am going to part it out. 130K, garaged from 91 to 2008, rebuilt auto tranny
    Located in St. Louis, MO. Need to get some wheels FAST - gotta drive to eat.
    Unless someone can point me towards some salvage parts.... And lemmie know if you can spot any frame damage.
  • simplyhondasimplyhonda Council Member
    If you decide to part out, I am interrested in your door mouldings. Maybe som other stuff. Let me know if your going that route.
  • if you are parting it out i will take both front fenders like asap
  • wELL, THE RIGHT [Passenger] fender isn't pristine at all. no rust though. Mostly rust-free all over.
    All the mouldings and rubber are in great shape. it has the flip up sunroof, also in great shape with nice soft rubber.
  • sorry to hear bout your car
    it looks like it was really clean

    if you part out i need your corner light please also some other pieces
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  • And the perps? They should be the ones paying. What about the insurance company of the car that hit yours? If it was at your house, your home-owners insurance might cover it... but it looks like it was in the street so probably not.
  • And the perps? They should be the ones paying. What about the insurance company of the car that hit yours? If it was at your house, your home-owners insurance might cover it... but it looks like it was in the street so probably not.

    X2
  • Nawwwww... The car was reported stolen so the owner's insurance doesn't pay, my uninsured motorist doesn't pay because I wasn't in the car, and I didn't even ask about my renter's insurance, but I seriously doubt it. Looks like I am SOL....
    I got a guy comming over tmrw with a 1991 Civic SI with a wagovan 1.6 motor in it, 5 spd, 110k, banged up front fenders and door, hopefully to do a straight trade. And I found the parts I need from a lot, $300, and then $300 - $400 to fix it. I just do not have the time!
  • 1988rt1988rt Senior Wagonist
    bummer. dont you wish you could kick the guys ass who hit you :(
  • Ohhhh man, I wish I could do more than that to 'em!

    I'll have to settle for hoping that they got whiplash. the BAD kind, that sticks with you, you know? The kind that ruins sports careers? Yeah.

    Got a guy comming in a bit to maybe do a trade for a 1991 Civic SI, wish me luck
  • Heads up, I have it on CL St. Louis for $750 or trade

    http://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/2105711529.html

    EDIT: I would like to post a proper for sale, but I 'lack the proper permissions'?!??! WTF?

    -Mark
  • simplyhondasimplyhonda Council Member
    Those pics make me sick on my stomach!
  • Those pics make me sick on my stomach!
    Sorry to hear this ):
  • saw this thing in the local craigslist. bummer man
  • SpeedLogicSpeedLogic New Wagonist
    So sad to see another Wagon off the streets...hard enough to find them as it is :-(
  • etienneetienne Band Wagon
    oh shit... that really suck!

    But .. FIX IT !!!
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